The new headache for bosses: Employees aren't quitting

This looks like yet another WSJ hit piece on the lower classes. The company management isn't to blame for people getting fired, it's the workers (who perform) not quitting.

Those pesky workers make it so hard for a company to always look like the good guy. They really are always the good guy, obviously.

Re: The new headache for bosses: Employees aren't quitting

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Post by FirmwareBurner » Mon, Nov 06, 2023, 4:33 PM UTC

Question: Why would "not quitting" be a headache for employers? I thought in the US you can just fire people you don't want anymore, instead of waiting for them to quit. Makes no sense to me.

Re: The new headache for bosses: Employees aren't quitting

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Post by gmoot » Mon, Nov 06, 2023, 4:37 PM UTC

If you look at the graph in the article, attrition is just returning to historical levels after a spike in 2021. Nothing to see here.

Re: The new headache for bosses: Employees aren't quitting

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Post by IKantRead » Mon, Nov 06, 2023, 4:38 PM UTC

Supermancho wrote: post #5

Nobody is quitting because jobs are more competitive than 5 years ago. This looks like yet another WSJ hit piece on the lower classes. The company management isn't to blame for people getting fired, it's the workers (who perform) not quitting. Those pesky workers make it so hard for a company to always look like the good guy. They really are always the good guy, obviously.

I would add that this creates the problem, which I think most tech companies have forgotten about: if you try to attrition out staff and the market is competitive, you'll only attrition out your best employees.

Last place I was at everyone was starting to get really frustrated with the way management was handling projects and all but one person on my team wanted to quit. The problem is that the talent on the team was largely so-so. I was the only one that found work and left, but that only served to further decrease the morale of the remaining members who felt both more trapped and now without coworkers they liked. Across the org I noticed pretty much every other team started to experience similar issues.

Re: The new headache for bosses: Employees aren't quitting

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Post by lloydatkinson » Mon, Nov 06, 2023, 4:39 PM UTC

Supermancho wrote: post #5

Nobody is quitting because jobs are more competitive than 5 years ago. This looks like yet another WSJ hit piece on the lower classes. The company management isn't to blame for people getting fired, it's the workers (who perform) not quitting. Those pesky workers make it so hard for a company to always look like the good guy. They really are always the good guy, obviously.

WSJ can’t help but write hit pieces, I think they are paid for.

Firstly workers should be grateful to waste hours of time commuting to office jobs and shouldn’t be allowed remote jobs, then the next meme is “silent quitting”, the current meme is “workers aren’t quitting enough (sub text: bosses are running out of ways to instil misery and stress)”

Re: The new headache for bosses: Employees aren't quitting

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Post by FFP999 » Mon, Nov 06, 2023, 4:39 PM UTC

Supermancho wrote: post #5

Nobody is quitting because jobs are more competitive than 5 years ago. This looks like yet another WSJ hit piece on the lower classes. The company management isn't to blame for people getting fired, it's the workers (who perform) not quitting. Those pesky workers make it so hard for a company to always look like the good guy. They really are always the good guy, obviously.

Guess these companies better stop spending so much on avocado toast and fancy coffees. It's hard times for everyone but I'm sure they'll manage somehow.