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Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's really fascinating to see how the system reacts to agents of actual widespread change.

Or perhaps two things could be true at the same time; SpaceX saves the government money on launches and Elon is a crazy shitposter on “X”

> Elon is a crazy shitposter on “X”

Does anyone care beyond internet drama points?

The man's efforts to engineer societal-level technological change toward sustainability seem to matter more in my estimation.

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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I hope so. As much as I don't really care for that man, Starlink has been an absolute gamechanger. It's much faster & more stable than anything including 3/4/5g in my region. It hasn't gone down even once on my roof even in really bad weather. Allows me to live in nature comfortably.

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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post #7

I am really curious how much Musk extracted from American taxpayers. Tesla, SpaceX, Starlink everything is or was substituted by tax money. Without the Ukraine war and all the terminals and monthly payments from different governments Starlink would have no chance to break even so early.

Starlink took government money and made a global network of internet satellites. That's pretty fucking incredible.

Meanwhile Xfinity took government money and did fuck all with it. Added some more fees, poisoned DNS, laughed all the way to the bank.

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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post #6

I don't trust Elon Musk words, at all. It doesn't mean I think it is wrong, but that it can be right or wrong, and material evidence may point to either direction, but what Elon Musk says is random noise to me. At least when he is talking about his business. He is like a professional poker player, you never know when he is bluffing. In the case of Starlink, on what grounds does it "breakeven"? It is a department of a…

Hard agreement with all of this. As much as I'd really love Starlink to do well, Musk has negative reliability.

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or perhaps two things could be true at the same time; SpaceX saves the government money on launches and Elon is a crazy shitposter on “X”

> Elon is a crazy shitposter on “X” Does anyone care beyond internet drama points? The man's efforts to engineer societal-level technological change toward sustainability seem to matter more in my estimation.

Clearly Elon does otherwise he wouldn’t do it?

To me it reeks of a certain lack of self awareness, respect for others and questionable decision making. You can be interesting and edgy without being a total asshole.

I also question his actual interest in sustainability. How exactly does paying $40 billion for Twitter fit into that grand strategy? What about driving a wedge between large groups of people by promoting hate speech helps any positive societal level change? Even if he did, do I want to put that power in one rich man?

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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There are many timelines without spacex where something like starlink isn’t achieved for many more decades, possibly centuries. Very few thought this was possible.

Given it's already been done before by Iridium [0], it's hard to see how it would take centuries for a more efficient version of the same thing to emerge if Spacex was not around. Especially given the general technology progress since Iridium initially launched.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iridium_satellite_constellatio...

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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There are many timelines without spacex where something like starlink isn’t achieved for many more decades, possibly centuries. Very few thought this was possible.

I wonder about a timeline where man is at peace, and develops space travel without the military technology of rockets.

JP Aerospace was doing some cool things with Airships to Orbit.(I know that sounds impossible. Check their out-of-date web site for details.) https://www.jpaerospace.com/

Some of my students flew sub-orbital space probes with them.

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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There are many timelines without spacex where something like starlink isn’t achieved for many more decades, possibly centuries. Very few thought this was possible.

Given it's already been done before by Iridium [0], it's hard to see how it would take centuries for a more efficient version of the same thing to emerge if Spacex was not around. Especially given the general technology progress since Iridium initially launched. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iridium_satellite_constellatio...

Starlink is comparable to Iridium if you are discussing ‘internet from the sky’ but the details are more complex.

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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post #7

I am really curious how much Musk extracted from American taxpayers. Tesla, SpaceX, Starlink everything is or was substituted by tax money. Without the Ukraine war and all the terminals and monthly payments from different governments Starlink would have no chance to break even so early.

Starlink has been a 10-100x ROI for the government, it’s why they invest in things with ‘subsidies’.
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