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Scientists Are Researching a Device That Can Induce Lucid Dreams on Demand

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Re: Scientists Are Researching a Device That Can Induce Lucid Dreams on Demand

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While I'm looking for a solution to prevent lucid dreams...

Let them play out without controlling the dreamscape.

Alternatively, close your (dream) eyes and let the dream dissolve intro dreamless sleep. You will still be lucid, but there will be no dream, only empty consciousness. It feels sort of like floating disembodied in an empty boundless dark space. It is a blissful experience.

If you get bored of that you may be able to recreate the dreamscape, just like when you perform WILD.

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I read about lucid dreaming on wikibooks, iirc this was before the movie inception. Do you guys actually control your dreams? How do you keep bad things from happening? More importantly, do you remember anything when you wake up?

I only remember dreams when I'm sleeping lightly. When I do I'm usually quickly aware it's a dream. It's very seldom I wake up and only then realize it's been a dream, I can only recall 3-4 times this has happened and I'm 40+.

Most of the times when I become aware I can control the dream, and it feels like I'm directing a movie of sorts. If I don't like where the dream is going I go back a bit and re-dream a different path, so to speak.

Since I sleep lightly in these cases I often incorporate external elements. For a while I had a radio alarm clock and I'd incorporate bits of the news or any stories the radio host told into my dreams, usually turning them very weird, but not in a bad way.

Only ever had one bad dream as an adult, but it was really bad. It was one where I was aware but not fully in control, I was dreaming I was in one of the video games I played at the time and had a good time. But then I ended up getting trapped underwater and drowned. That woke me up and it felt horrible. The feeling of hopelessness and knowing you're about to die really left a mark. Took me a long time to get over it, and I still get the chills thinking about it now 15 years later.

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post #13

GPT-driven induced lucid dreams + sleeping pills + sleeping pods makes for a nice dystopian near-future movie plot where there's a new class of ever more hardcore Hikikomori that not only never leave their house, they also sleep for 20 hours per day and only wake up to do hygiene and so on. Maybe a further version includes supporting staff for life support maintenance like in paliative care place but for "never-awoke…

Would you rather live in Gaza right now or your “dystopia”?

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post #13

GPT-driven induced lucid dreams + sleeping pills + sleeping pods makes for a nice dystopian near-future movie plot where there's a new class of ever more hardcore Hikikomori that not only never leave their house, they also sleep for 20 hours per day and only wake up to do hygiene and so on. Maybe a further version includes supporting staff for life support maintenance like in paliative care place but for "never-awoke…

Reminds me of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altered_States

Re: Scientists Are Researching a Device That Can Induce Lucid Dreams on Demand

#36
post #23

While I'm looking for a solution to prevent lucid dreams...

If someone's never had a lucid dream, I can totally see how it could be alluring.

As someone that has lucid dreams nearly every night, it's just so tiring. You never get any rest. I wish I could make it stop.

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I’ve heard of lucid dreaming and always wanted to experience it but never could. I don’t know how people actually do it.

One trick I have heard is to force yourself to develop a habit in your waking life where once every couple of hours you consciously asked yourself "Am I awake right now?", paired with something physical like looking at your hands or something. The idea is that if you develop this as a habit eventually you will do it in a dream, at which point you will realise you are dreaming.

Generally it seems that very light sleep, (like when you wake up in the morning but snooze the alarm and go back to sleep) is more conducive to lucid dreaming. Some people set alarms at intervals throughout the night to achieve this but that can be very destructive to sleep health.

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post #23

While I'm looking for a solution to prevent lucid dreams...

If someone's never had a lucid dream, I can totally see how it could be alluring. As someone that has lucid dreams nearly every night, it's just so tiring. You never get any rest. I wish I could make it stop.

Sorry to hear that and sorry for nagging you but I couldn't possibly be more intrigued after reading this! Can't you just like dream up a bed or a nice hammock on a beautiful Caribbean beach and go to sleep in the dream or something? Or is my understanding of what lucid dreaming (having never experienced it, probably... never tried on purpose, never wondered about it) too much like Inception and not enough like it really is?

Re: Scientists Are Researching a Device That Can Induce Lucid Dreams on Demand

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I’ve heard of lucid dreaming and always wanted to experience it but never could. I don’t know how people actually do it.

Get in the habit of checking if you are dreaming. Try doing something that you know can't happen but imagine it will work while trying it. e.g. Jump while imagining that you will start floating instead of landing back on the ground. Hold your hand up and imagine your coffee mug will jump into it. If you do stuff like that regularly -- every day -- then eventually you will do one of the tests in a dream too but instead of failing like it would in waking life, it will play out how you imagined it.

Just don't get in the habit of immediately dismissing the idea that you are in a dream. I did that once -- asked myself if I was in a dream and thought "of course not!" because I'd gotten in the habit of dismissing the tests -- and was very annoyed when I woke up... Test the idea seriously every time it occurs to you.

I found it kind of a tedious thing to do and eventually fell out of the habit, but it worked well enough for me that I was able to have a few lucid dreams.

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