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Scientists Are Researching a Device That Can Induce Lucid Dreams on Demand

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The novelty wears off. Bear in mind that you don't control when they occur. Also, a lucid dream is not quite the same experience as being normally awake -- you are still dreaming and accessing your memories is surprisingly difficult, so you will typically not remember what you had set to achieve in your next lucid dream. That said, I think the biggest realization of being a frequent lucid dreamer is: how is it possib…

The person who told me that made it sound like they were lucid dreaming every dream. Like they learned the trick so well they couldn’t turn it off. Don’t know how realistic that is.

Yeah, that can happen. You eventually learn to stop controlling the dreams and instead let them unfold like a movie. They become not very different from non-lucid dreams in a practical sense, other than the fact that you still know they are an illusion.

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I'm sorry, there's no chance I'll use transcranial ultrasound to manipulate my brain. People who want to lucid dream can do it the old fashioned way without being worried about things like cavitation of their brain cells. There's a reason the NHS recommends that people don't use things like 4D ultrasound as a form of entertainment. That they describe transcranial ultrasound as "non-invasive" is absurd. Either it does…

> There's a reason the NHS recommends that people don't use things like 4D ultrasound as a form of entertainment.

Had no idea about this!

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I read about lucid dreaming on wikibooks, iirc this was before the movie inception. Do you guys actually control your dreams? How do you keep bad things from happening? More importantly, do you remember anything when you wake up?

> Do you guys actually control your dreams?

I don’t lucid dream often, but when I realise I am dreaming sometimes it makes zero difference and in others I can think calmly and change my actions as if I were awake.

I have a peculiarity (unsure how common this is) in my dreams where every place is different from their real counterpart but the same between dreams. So whenever I am in control in a dream, I use the opportunity to explore the area and uncover more of the geography/architecture for subsequent dreams. The issue with control is that the more of it I exert, the more I feel myself waking up. The reverse is also true. So I have to take turns exploring and “letting go” (i.e. don’t make decisions) to balance it out and remain in the dream state as long as possible. It’s always a matter of time and the more I realise that is happening the closer I am to waking up.

> How do you keep bad things from happening?

Like what? It’s only a dream and I don’t sleepwalk. I don’t fear nightmares because I’m glad when I wake up and they weren’t real.

> More importantly, do you remember anything when you wake up?

Yes, otherwise how would we know lucid dreaming is a thing?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The novelty wears off. Bear in mind that you don't control when they occur. Also, a lucid dream is not quite the same experience as being normally awake -- you are still dreaming and accessing your memories is surprisingly difficult, so you will typically not remember what you had set to achieve in your next lucid dream. That said, I think the biggest realization of being a frequent lucid dreamer is: how is it possib…

You can very well control when they occur, e.g. if you do WILD (wake-induced lucid dream) techniques. There’s a lot of myths around LD. The novelty may wear off for some people, right. I still pretty much enjoy it, though.

>>> I’ve heard lucid dreaming can become a chore

>> Bear in mind that you don't control when they occur

> You can very well control when they occur, e.g. if you do WILD

We are talking of different scenarios. It becomes a chore when you are lucid dreaming frequently without any prior intention to do so.

The way out of that is letting go of your desire of controlling your lucid dreams, and instead let them play out like a movie. You are still lucid, since you still know it's all an illusion, just like when you watch a movie IRL.

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I read about lucid dreaming on wikibooks, iirc this was before the movie inception. Do you guys actually control your dreams? How do you keep bad things from happening? More importantly, do you remember anything when you wake up?

> Do you guys actually control your dreams? I don’t lucid dream often, but when I realise I am dreaming sometimes it makes zero difference and in others I can think calmly and change my actions as if I were awake. I have a peculiarity (unsure how common this is) in my dreams where every place is different from their real counterpart but the same between dreams. So whenever I am in control in a dream, I use the opport…

> Yes, otherwise how would we know lucid dreaming is a thing?

This might be getting TMI but sometimes I remember some things happened but I don't remember the details. For example, I flew around indoors in a museum or had these long conversations with my parents.

I don't remember what was said in those conversations but I am afraid one of these days I'll remember what we talked about and not realise it wit for real and when I actually talk to my parents they are going to be really confused.

Re: Scientists Are Researching a Device That Can Induce Lucid Dreams on Demand

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I read about lucid dreaming on wikibooks, iirc this was before the movie inception. Do you guys actually control your dreams? How do you keep bad things from happening? More importantly, do you remember anything when you wake up?

> Do you guys actually control your dreams? How do you keep bad things from happening?

I've only had lucid dreams a few times, but my experience with dreaming -- both lucid and the regular kind -- is that dreams seem to work on anticipation; what you expect to happen next is more or less what happens next. If you think "there better not be a monster under my bed..." there's gonna be a monster under your bed because you're anticipating a monster.

Once you realize you're dreaming you can exercise some control over it by basically willing things to happen -- imagine your finger extending to push a button on the other side of the room, anticipate the feeling of the touch of the button, and it will stretch. I did that as an "am I dreaming?" test once and became lucid briefly before waking up.

Be careful about your expectations though -- I've done other dream tests where I just asked myself if I was dreaming and immediately dismissed it as not a dream since I'd gotten in the habit of immediately dismissing the tests in waking life! I was really annoyed when I woke up and realized what had happened...

In one of the dreams I became lucid in, I tried flying and was able to do that successfully but almost immediately became worried I'd crash into a ditch, so of course I crashed into a ditch and woke up.

> More importantly, do you remember anything when you wake up?

I've always woken up from lucid dreams (as far as I know, anyway) so I remember them the same as waking from a vivid dream or nightmare.

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