Nice app, but running a privacy friendly app on an Android itself is an oxymoron.
NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android
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#382NewPipe is the best. Dunno how people watch YouTube without it. You can also subscribe to channels from it without a YouTube account.
I'm watching fine on Firefox with uBlock Origin. I mean, I don't get ads. What else am I missing by not using NewPipe (I don't care about downloading videos).
Subscribing to channels. Trim silences. Various pitch and speed options. Background play. Picture in picture. Watch history. Playlists. NewPipe also plays Soundcloud, Bandcamp, and has the entire media.ccc.de library and can do all those things with those services as well.
One of my most used F-Droid apps.
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#383Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can configure sponsorblock with various options. End credits, sponsored sections, lots of things
Right. My issue is that I disagree with what they consider "sponsored sections" sometimes. "Only skip sponsor segments longer than 30 seconds" isn't an option. Long ads that make up most of the video: bad. A brief passing comment about "And thanks to our sponsor for supporting this video" dont need a cut.
hello, if you got some issue. It would be best to go their discord to contest it for the benefit of everyone who is going to use it in the future.
I've done it a few times too, and if ever the recent submission wasn't good they can lock the video from further submissions
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#384Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm watching fine on Firefox with uBlock Origin. I mean, I don't get ads. What else am I missing by not using NewPipe (I don't care about downloading videos).
Subscribing to channels. Trim silences. Various pitch and speed options. Background play. Picture in picture. Watch history. Playlists. NewPipe also plays Soundcloud, Bandcamp, and has the entire media.ccc.de library and can do all those things with those services as well. One of my most used F-Droid apps.
Almost all of those you get from just using the normal website with uBlock Origin and a browser lol. Not really exclusive features.
Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android
#385Nice app, but running a privacy friendly app on an Android itself is an oxymoron.
Agree. And the inability to log in is weird. The user could always not log in - although I understand them not putting in free work on features they don't believe in.
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#386I've been using this on android for more than 6 years. Love being able to quickly download a local copy of video or music as I'm boarding a flight or train. Highly recommend getting it using fdroid instead of apk because there have been points when youtube made changes that break the app and you'll need to get the latest update
I would recommend using Obtainium[1] over F-Droid.
Obtainum downloads APKs directly from the repository's releases page, for example the GitHub releases page.
Why not use F-Droid? "Due to their process of building apps, apps in the official F-Droid repository often fall behind on updates. F-Droid maintainers also reuse package IDs while signing apps with their own keys, which is not ideal as it gives the F-Droid team ultimate trust. Additionally, the requirements for an app to be included in the official F-Droid repo are less strict than other app stores like Google Play, meaning that F-Droid tends to host a lot more apps which are older, unmaintained, or otherwise no longer meet modern security standards."[2]
[1]: https://github.com/ImranR98/Obtainium#readme [2]: https://www.privacyguides.org/en/android/#f-droid
Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android
#387I've been using this on android for more than 6 years. Love being able to quickly download a local copy of video or music as I'm boarding a flight or train. Highly recommend getting it using fdroid instead of apk because there have been points when youtube made changes that break the app and you'll need to get the latest update
I would recommend using Obtainium[1] over F-Droid. Obtainum downloads APKs directly from the repository's releases page, for example the GitHub releases page. Why not use F-Droid? "Due to their process of building apps, apps in the official F-Droid repository often fall behind on updates. F-Droid maintainers also reuse package IDs while signing apps with their own keys, which is not ideal as it gives the F-Droid team…
Do keep in mind the prior part that explains why they reuse package IDs and use signing keys that way; F-Droid aims for reproducible builds[0]. They also to my knowledge do respect developers that want a different build ID/package title to be used compared to the "official" version. The F-Droid version of Island for example is called Insular specifically to avoid this issue.
PrivacyGuides' motivations here are really aimed for a specific type of user (and I'll note that it's slightly odd for them to place so much faith in a point of origin that's historically been the easiest to compromise: the upstream developer usually is the easiest target, particularly on otherwise dormant software); the tradeoff F-Droid does might be more worthwhile for most people in that they act more like a linux distro maintainer, so there's a second set of eyes to prevent any shenanigans from being afoot on the upstream.
You can as I understand it run their actual servers rather easily (provided you have the computer space to do so)[1], so solving that is pretty easy, should you feel inclined to do so.
[0]: https://f-droid.org/en/docs/Reproducible_Builds/
[1]: https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata contains all the files used to generate their servers, should just be able to combine it with their guide on how to run a buildserver on https://f-droid.org/en/docs/Build_Server_Setup/
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#388Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would I want to pay for anything? Consumers generally seek the lowest possible price. That's how economics works. YouTube wouldn't be what it is if it wasn't "free". I do pay for my internet connection and bandwidth. But obviously I found the best possible deal. There is the busking model and I do choose to contribute a small amount to a small number of creators that I can tell put a lot of cash and effort into t…
Hiding behind theories of consumer behavior is not an excuse for immoral actions. Open source was never meant to be the place where open theft and piracy should thrive. And, the Robinhood sentiment isn't really applicable here because you're stealing from creators. YouTube may be owned by a multi billion dollar corporation, but it does support and bootstrapped a vibrant creator community. The more time we spend steal…
Last night I performed a private concert in my house with an entrance charge. You did not attend. Were you "stealing from creators"?
If you walk past a busker on the street without dropping a coin in the hat, are you "stealing from creators"?
In the former hypothetical, this is clearly absurd. You didn't ask for the concert, you didn't even attend, so of course you were not obliged to pay for it.
This would be like Netflix telling you you are "stealing from creators" by not watching their shows.
In the latter hypothetical, you did not ask for the performance but you heard it nonetheless. You may have even enjoyed it. The busker has costs that you did not meet like food, clothes and equipment costs. How could you not support that?
If Netflix follows the "private concert" model, YouTube very clearly follows the busker model. If it wasn't in public, most of these creators would be like me playing the concert in my home: nobody would attend. They need to be in public.
You can't be in public and force the public to pay.
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#389NewPipe would be absolutely awesome, if only it didn't crash five times a day with a focus-stealing crash report window.
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#390Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The vast majority of people do not pirate I would be happy to see a serious study about this. What you call piracy has been the norm for centuries and millenia for spreading culture and reinterpreting music/shows produced by other people. In the vast majority of the world (including in the global north), the budget you have for culture is low (if any) and when you have people with a computer, copying stuff is very…
this is a misleading reply because you ignore the speed and scale at which the internet allows sharing to happen. In the past, the speed of sharing was limited by communication at the time, either word of mouth, the speed of printing books etc. If what you describe truly was the norm, then creating any sort of content for any reason would generate negative returns. This was and is rarely the case. I do not see it as…
> this is a misleading reply because you ignore the speed and scale at which the internet allows sharing to happen.
You are misleading because i explicitly talked about the Internet and widespread file-sharing in my comment. Most people would love to pay a fair price for high-quality DRM-free content and that's why for a while Spotify and Netflix won. Now that Netflix raises prices and doesn't license all the interesting shows anymore, people are going back to piracy because they can't afford 5 10$/month subscription for every streaming service out there.
Historically in France, a "global license" was proposed instead of HADOPI. It was like those streaming services, but run as a public service to ensure artists don't get scammed by corporations. Guess who opposed that proposal? Those same corporations, who keep exploiting the artists and milking the consumers.
I've been pirating all along. I still buy a lot of stuff, eg. CDs at concerts. Make it convenient and ethical for me to pay within what i can afford and i will. In the meantime, i'll keep pirating because i can't spend more on culture than i spend on food, often for content of dubious quality.