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Kai Fu Lee's New AI Company: Yi-Open Source

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Re: Kai Fu Lee's New AI Company: Yi-Open Source

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Post by upupupandaway »

throwaway4736 wrote: post #24
Conscat wrote: post #19

> We predict that AI 2.0 will create a platform opportunity ten times larger than the mobile internet, rewriting all software and user interfaces. I was a bit interested until I read this. If this claim is to be believed, then the company appears to be entirely out of touch with reality, and it makes claims like outperforming llama-70b seem even more incredulous.

Matt Levine once described this very well, although he did it when referring to Adam Neumann and WeWork. I’m paraphrasing, but there are a subset of people who are able to consistently and accurately to great success exploit a bubble in the VC world, by dint of exactly knowing what to say and of being able to get the meeting in the first place. Lee being able to credibly sell bullshit like the quoted claim is a featu…

At first I was angry about these grifters because they suck opportunities out of the market, leaving legitimate startups behind. But knowing what I know now, that VCs are also grifters (looking at a16z and its pump and dump crypto win) I have started rooting for the "bad guys". So may Lee attract all VC money in the world to promptly set it on fire like Adam did.

Re: Kai Fu Lee's New AI Company: Yi-Open Source

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Post by thibo_skabgia »

TekMol wrote: post #13

How can an open source company have a valuation of $1B? How do open source businesses work at all? I sometimes read about companies like these, with huge valuations and then the next day I read about some open source developer asking for donations because their project, which powers half of the internet [1], is not making him enough to pay for food. What makes the difference? Over the years, I wrote some tools for my…

Listed OSS business models here if useful: https://github.com/anhtho-lago/awesome-opensource-company#bu...

Also, the comments here were interesting: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37682684

Re: Kai Fu Lee's New AI Company: Yi-Open Source

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Post by flarion »

upupupandaway wrote: post #38
flarion wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

like any other startup. time, energy and passion. define problem/pain. talk loads w potential customers. ask them if they would pay for it. excel in customer success. find ways to scale and be found :)

Or... or... s/he could convince a VC that the startup would multiply the potential opportunity in the space the tools cover by 10x and get a really fat check for generating the right hype with the right crowd. /s

doesn't work w/o traction.

Re: Kai Fu Lee's New AI Company: Yi-Open Source

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Post by omneity »

lhl wrote: post #22

Just an FYI,the Yi license is a custom license an is not what I would describe an "open license": https://huggingface.co/01-ai/Yi-34B/blob/main/LICENSE It's non-commercial only: "If you plan to use the Yi Series Models and Derivatives for Commercial Purposes, you should contact the Licensor in advance" and "Your use of the Yi Series Models must comply with the Laws and Regulations as well as applicable legal requirem…

Worth noting they include synthetic data and training other models as derivatives:

> “Derivatives” refers to all modifications to Yi Series Models, work based on Yi Series Models, or any other models created or initialized by transferring the weights, parameters, activations, or output patterns of Yi Series Models to other models to achieve similar performance, including but not limited to methods that require using intermediate data representations or generating synthetic data based on Yi Series Models to train other models.

This model does not seem fit at all for public use except maybe for some research. I suspect they have customers lined up or are currently prospecting/in talks, and this release is purely for marketing purposes.

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