Why Cities: Skylines 2 performs poorly

Post by eloisant » Sun, Nov 05, 2023, 9:51 PM UTC

clnq wrote: post #221

vGPU wrote: post #102

> This mesh of a pile of logs is similarly only used in the shadow rendering pass, and features over 100K vertices. But… why?

Because it is one of the 1,000,000 things to pay attention to in game development. Someone or some software probably just made a mistake in setting up its LOD. Or some dynamic LODding code didn't properly cull the LOD0 mesh. Or that code couldn't be finished in time. Or it was something else. It's completely normal in AAA games to have a few imperfect and in-optimal things. Budgets are always limiting, and developmen…

Post by mardifoufs » Sun, Nov 05, 2023, 9:55 PM UTC

KronisLV wrote: post #268

wilg wrote: post #77

It sounds like these issues are relatively fixable. It's a classic victim of the Unity engine's tech debt though. I use Unity myself and they desperately need to decide on how they want people to make video games in their engine. They can't have three rendering pipelines and two ways of adding game logic that have a complicated matrix of interactions and missing features. And not great documentation and a bad bug rep…

Honestly, automatic LOD generation would solve at least some of the performance issues: add the functionality, make it opt-out for those that don't need LODs and enjoy performance improvements in most projects, in addition to some folks getting a simpler workflow (e.g. using auto-generated models instead of having to create your own, which could at the very least have passable quality). Godot has this: https://docs.g…

Post by bsder » Sun, Nov 05, 2023, 9:57 PM UTC

solardev wrote: post #262

worldsayshi wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if releasing a widely anticipated game unfinished is sometimes actually strategically beneficial marketing wise. Perhaps it's a marketing dark pattern? It makes the game stay in people's minds longer because people keep coming back to it asking "is it good yet, have they fixed it yet?". It kind of feels it has worked like that for Cyberpunk. If it's a finished game on launch day people will quickly make up t…

I think Cyberpunk was only able to turn itself around because the studio got so famous with The Witcher and people were willing to give them another chance. If they hadn't been famous already, it'd just have been another rando shitty game on Steam, of which there are thousands... But then there are stories No Man's Sky too, which had a miraculous turnaround as well. So maybe it can happen sometimes...

Post by smolder » Sun, Nov 05, 2023, 10:00 PM UTC

solardev wrote: post #294

Unfrozen0688 wrote: post #279

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dosent really count as it is not rendering on your machine... ofc its good there.

So? That's even better. Doesn't use my battery life or create noise & heat. Netflix isn't run on my machine either.

Post by polishdude20 » Sun, Nov 05, 2023, 10:02 PM UTC

EMM_386 wrote: post #72

> A brief glance at the JS bundle reveals that they are using React and bundling using Webpack. While this is something that is guaranteed to make the average native development purist yell at clouds and complain that the darned kids should get off their lawn, When I first heard of this as being a thing, my initial reaction was indeed something like "wait what? HTML and CSS in a desktop PC game driving the UI? No, th…