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Berlin's famed nightclubs, losing customers, face an uncertain future

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Re: Berlin's famed nightclubs, losing customers, face an uncertain future

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The ones that arbitrarily didn't let people get in when they were in their peak? Fuck them!

In the article even when they are struggling they still don’t let people in. Not sure what they want exactly.

It's like dying brands trying not to sell at Marshalls to not dilute their brands.

Re: Berlin's famed nightclubs, losing customers, face an uncertain future

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I realise Berghain et al are trying to protect themselves from the riff raff, but enforcing a stupid "techno uniform" and turning away half their potential customers for arbitrary reasons probably doesn't help their business. I went to Berlin earlier this year and didn't even try to get into Berghain because I don't want to waste time queuing only to be turned away.

In London we have some excellent clubs that don't care whatsoever about what you're wearing and everybody has a great time. You buy a ticket, you get in, simple as that.

Re: Berlin's famed nightclubs, losing customers, face an uncertain future

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You also have tik tok ravers. A generation which built their own culture in isolation in the pandemic now flooding the dance floors not knowing anything about techno culture. For me it's a big part of not wanting to go anywhere anymore. Before, your outfit didn't matter, phones, photos and videos were discouraged. Nowadays these kids dress to impress and point there phones everywhere. They consume the techno culture…

The “main character” TikTok culture is the most annoying thing in popular culture right now. Well that and maybe the cringey YouTube pranksters that deserve to be punched and sometimes are. Maybe the clubs could do something to make it a bad environment to make TikTok videos, like bombing the place with extremely bright flashing lights at a frequency that humans can’t see but that interferes with most phone cameras?…

They simply kick you out for filming, lol.

Re: Berlin's famed nightclubs, losing customers, face an uncertain future

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I think the closing point is pretty good: these businesses are complaining about declining revenues... but also turning people away? If that's how the nightclub business works, it's better for the government to stay away from subsidizing them. Let them run their business in their own way - but without taxpayer funding.

This. The truth is that those clubs are more elitist than the opera house.

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Re: Berlin's famed nightclubs, losing customers, face an uncertain future

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> "Berlin nightlife is very free," he says. "It's trying to push artistic boundaries. It's trying to push personal boundaries. It's trying to let people experience music, art and culture with some rules. But those rules are created to have no rules." I'm not sure this guy could be more pretentious if he tried. Maybe they should consider that this kind of attitude might be part of the problem.

DVS1 is definitely pretentious, but he's got the skills to back it up. Very good DJ.

Re: Berlin's famed nightclubs, losing customers, face an uncertain future

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I think the closing point is pretty good: these businesses are complaining about declining revenues... but also turning people away? If that's how the nightclub business works, it's better for the government to stay away from subsidizing them. Let them run their business in their own way - but without taxpayer funding.

why would taxpayers fund them? do they fund them?

Taxpayers fund them because it's part of our culture that is worth supporting. For example, Berlin clubs were financially supported as part of the Neustart Kultur campaign after covid.

Re: Berlin's famed nightclubs, losing customers, face an uncertain future

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just swinging through here to let you know you're a coward. Have a bad day.

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Ah yes, because if there's one thing the left is famous for, it's its placid acceptance of the status quo. Idiot.
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