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Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by Animats »

bluGill wrote: post #155
globalnode wrote: post #123

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f-droid website says "This app promotes or depends entirely on a non-free network service" -- whats that all about?

You should use peertube instead. Saddly there isn't much content there, but try to look there first and reward those who post there with your eyeballs.

Peertube is useful, but so little used that I have 3 of the top 20 videos on Hardlimit, and they're tech demos of a rather obscure program. The most popular has 2,500 views.

What might be useful is some way to use PeerTube distribution on any .mp4 file. Peertube is only a caching system, not a replicated hosting system like BitTorrent. You have to host one copy of the file somewhere. You should be able to put that master copy on any low-end web server, generate a Peertube URL for it, and let Peertube spool it out. Peertube works by mooching bandwidth off the people watching, so as viewership goes up, so do serving resources.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by jlokier »

Nextgrid wrote: post #84
micw wrote: post #45

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Honestly, I do not understand why one should use this. I have recently seen some high quality YT videos, each of a length of 30-60 minutes. In those videos where some sponsors mentioned which took only one or two minutes. Seems perfectly OK for me to support the creators. I guess if many people block sponsor content, this kind of vids will die.

If you watch YouTube enough you'll basically become aware of all the sponsors pretty quickly (and may even be a customer of some already!), so any exposure beyond that is a waste of time for all involved - if I didn't buy the product after seeing it 10 times, I won't buy it after seeing it the 11th either.

I don't agree. I watch YouTube tech, math, and science content every day and that's not my experience.

There are a small set of products that seem to be everywhere for a while, occupying a minority of sponsor segments. But in most sponsor segments I see one-off products that I'll never see again on any channel.

On the rare occasions where they show something that looks really useful to me, I'd have to take a note because it's so unlikely to be a product I will encounter again.

I don't take those notes, so I've seen a lot of great-looking products that I'll never buy due to forgetting they exist by the time they would be useful to me. When I need something I tend to browse for what's available and/or look at reviews with a skeptical eye, as I'm sure many people do.

So the sponsor segments aren't that effective for me. But I wouldn't call them repetitive, except for a few products that come up a lot.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by nickorlow »

beretguy wrote: post #158
WaffleIronMaker wrote: post #121

I also recommend GrayJay https://GrayJay.app

Louis Rossmann had a video introducing this app, but I can’t find it. Did YouTube force him to take down that video, anybody knows?

Yes... youtube gave the videos a community guideline strike and removed them. You can watch the videos in this thread: https://x.com/futo_tech/status/1719468941582442871?s=46

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by lazycouchpotato »

endisneigh wrote: post #77
k8sToGo wrote: post #38

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I don’t mind paying. I do mind paying $15 and then see still ads (Thanks to NordVPN for sponsoring this comment). Plus the algorithm keeps getting worse and worse. I’d prefer to pay like $5. I don’t need YouTube music.

I don’t understand this logic. Why do you think it would be cheaper without YouTube music? YouTube music literally is just YouTube. Every song on there can be found on YouTube, the only reason it’s even a separate app and included in premium is due to the lack of ads facilitating a better music listening experience.

Because YouTube themselves considers Music as an add-on, and was willing to have a cheaper Premium tier without Music in certain countries before they discontinued it.

https://9to5google.com/2023/09/26/youtube-premium-lite-shut-...

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by dawidpotocki »

micw wrote: post #45
DrNosferatu wrote: post #12

Also, checkout NewPipe with built in SponsorBlock functionality: https://github.com/polymorphicshade/NewPipe

Honestly, I do not understand why one should use this. I have recently seen some high quality YT videos, each of a length of 30-60 minutes. In those videos where some sponsors mentioned which took only one or two minutes. Seems perfectly OK for me to support the creators. I guess if many people block sponsor content, this kind of vids will die.

On my laptop alone SponsorBlock has skipped 5225 segments, which equals to 1d 20h. That's a lot of time I would waste by watching all of these.

Also, if you are fine with sponsor spots, you probably would have to also be okay with watching ads, so no adblocking either then.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by deadfece »

nfriedly wrote: post #131
micw wrote: post #45

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Honestly, I do not understand why one should use this. I have recently seen some high quality YT videos, each of a length of 30-60 minutes. In those videos where some sponsors mentioned which took only one or two minutes. Seems perfectly OK for me to support the creators. I guess if many people block sponsor content, this kind of vids will die.

Despite the name, it actually blocks a lot more than just sponsors. It can be set to automatically skip intros, outros, recaps, like and subscribe reminders, non-music sections of music videos, and other "fluff". It significantly boosts the signal to noise ratio, and makes YouTube a much better experience.

That sounds very useful on the non-ad improvements, and oddly enough I might try it for these areas. The sponsor mentions don't really bother me and I just skip them if they're not relevant. Sometimes it's kind of neat to see one and think "Oh, this creator got sponsored by , that's cool, get paid!", or if they're sponsored by bs snake oil companies, then I may discount the creator's input a great deal on account of them not having any discernment.

It's a small data point about the content, so it can sometimes be helpful if I'm trying to decide who to pick amongst forty different 2hr lectures on the same thing.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by globalnode »

maxhille wrote: post #130
globalnode wrote: post #123

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f-droid website says "This app promotes or depends entirely on a non-free network service" -- whats that all about?

Because YouTube itself is non-free as in proprietary software

right, i knew that -- thanks max :D
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