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Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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Re: Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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Post by RunSet »

mcpackieh wrote: post #10

> "Eating raw tuna was still an exotic pursuit to Americans when Moon—the self-declared “king of the ocean”—began investing in shipyards in the late 1970s and sending his followers to sell door-to-door from refrigerated vans. True World Foods, a seafood company founded at Moon’s direction, controls a large share of the sushi trade, selling raw fish to thousands of restaurants across the United States and Canada." Huh

> "Yamagami’s trial will offer Japan a chance to relive the entire drama. No date has been set as of this writing. Japanese prosecutors take their time, and for a man who has admitted to killing a former head of state, there may be pressure to apply the death penalty. If so, Yamagami will face an excruciating fate. Death-row prisoners in Japan are not told the date of their execution in advance. They wake up every morning not knowing if this day will be their last."

Huh

Re: Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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Post by RunSet »

snvzz wrote: post #18
tpmx wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Religion, sigh. So, no, not all religions are violent and/or harmful. I've been an devout atheist since about the age of 10. That doesn't stop me from seeing that: a) some religions are relatively harmless and mostly helpful to their believers b) some religions are very destructive to everyone I don't think we should go much further from here.

I am also an atheist, but recognize religion as damaging, forcing a tilting cognitive fog. Never helpful, a net negative to believers and society. The degree of bad depends on the religion and the believer. Plus one must not forget that, for most believers, religion preceded adulthood, even maturity. Meaning it was never a choice, but imposed through indoctrination and immediate social pressure.

> I am also an atheist, but recognize religion as damaging, forcing a tilting cognitive fog. Never helpful, a net negative to believers and society.

Religion has saved the lives of many who converted at swordpoint.

Re: Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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Post by bombcar »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #108
bombcar wrote: post #7

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Change DNS to not use Cloudflare.

This is a separate issue from the previous Cloudflare issue and it manifests differently. Getting Captcha'd happens with non-cloudflare resolvers as well, tho not universally nor consistently. I forced all of Archive domains to query against Quad9 and started getting unskipable Captchas months ago - when I was local(US). When I placeshifted to overseas, Quad9 resolved to different IPs and those were usable.

The technical reasons behind it are that the archive.today guy wants any takedown notices to be cross-border, so he wants to know what country you are in so he can redirect you to a server outside it.

Cloudflare doesn't support a DNS extension that allows this (eDNS maybe?) and so it fails.

Re: Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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Post by mcpackieh »

RunSet wrote: post #161
mcpackieh wrote: post #10

> "Eating raw tuna was still an exotic pursuit to Americans when Moon—the self-declared “king of the ocean”—began investing in shipyards in the late 1970s and sending his followers to sell door-to-door from refrigerated vans. True World Foods, a seafood company founded at Moon’s direction, controls a large share of the sushi trade, selling raw fish to thousands of restaurants across the United States and Canada." Huh

> "Yamagami’s trial will offer Japan a chance to relive the entire drama. No date has been set as of this writing. Japanese prosecutors take their time, and for a man who has admitted to killing a former head of state, there may be pressure to apply the death penalty. If so, Yamagami will face an excruciating fate. Death-row prisoners in Japan are not told the date of their execution in advance. They wake up every mo…

I thought Japan only gave the death penalty to people who commit multiple murders, or tortured people to death.

Re: Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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Post by User23 »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #148
User23 wrote: post #139

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I assume that sounded clever to you when you typed it, but I invite you to consider how it completely fails to follow in any way from the statement that human understanding of higher order consequences rapidly approaches absolute deficiency as the causal chain lengthens. My practical ethic is something closer to deontology. And it includes things like “don’t mutilate your body.” It’s precisely because I can’t follow…

Why doesn't your practical ethic include the general moral principle of not promoting religious nonsense? The causal chain is simple. People who believe religious nonsense can be easily made to believe any nonsense that hurts them (and have done so again and again), including mutilating their own genitals and the genitals of their children, which conflicts with and takes priority over your other moral principle. Your…

You obviously have a lot of emotional baggage here and it’s keeping you from making much sense.

Re: Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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Post by bobthepanda »

graphe wrote: post #106
api wrote: post #99

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Lately I’ve seen tons and tons of anti trans content that actually says sponsored by the Epoch Times. I’ve see it on Facebook and Xitter. I don’t get why that issue is so important to them. Maybe scaring people about trans people is just broadly working. Gotta fear monger or people might notice that most of our candidates are incompetent. Republicans are unelectable without scaring people about LGBT people and immigr…

What content are you seeing? I've never seen those.

Modern ad targeting is a hell of a thing.

At one point I was getting 40+ minute Youtube “ads” from the likes of PragerU and Ray Dalio because I watched some news and history content.

Re: Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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Post by chmod775 »

kergonath wrote: post #141
Aloha wrote: post #123

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That's not wrong, we have an issue with politicians promising things that are impossible or at a minimum highly implausible - because the structure of our political system means they won't be thrown out on their ear for making promises they can't keep.

It kind of makes sense on an intellectual level, but I don’t think it is very plausible. Trump promised a lot of things when he was elected, most of which are practically impossible. I think he just promised the right things for his audience, whereas most politicians are so far up their arses that they don’t know what actual people want or care about.

I don't think that's what GP meant: Voters just wanted to set the whole circus on fire. That the person they chose for the job also made impossible promises didn't matter.

This happens a lot on a smaller scale in other democracies that aren't a two party system - people vote for some nonsense radicals or weirdo upstart party to signal the establishment it needs to change. Sometimes this has quite funny outcomes: Pirate party, the Greens in Germany in 1983, etc. Other times it's scary nutjobs. Rarely the parties stick around for longer, slowly becoming the establishment.

Re: Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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Post by huytersd »

dieselgate wrote: post #76
abecode wrote: post #36

I went to a conference in Nara last year and at one of the receptions I told a Japanese attendee that I was sorry to hear about the assassination. I joked that my name is pronounced Abe like Abe Lincoln, not like Shinzo Abe. He kind of shrugged and said it would be kind of like if it had happened to Trump in the US, in that there were a lot of of people that didn't like him. The article makes it seem like people disc…

Not getting into politics at all but I imagine it'd be utter chaos if anything similar were to happen to Trump, that's an interesting perspective to hear though.

I doubt it. You’re going to get some diehards try and shoot up some innocents somewhere but that’s nothing new for the US.

Re: Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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Post by edgyquant »

macintux wrote: post #101
dmonitor wrote: post #88

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If Trump died, and in the aftermath it was revealed he had ties to a Chinese cult, his only remaining supporters would probably be the cult-like reality deniers.

> ...his only remaining supporters would probably be the cult-like reality deniers. He built a huge base largely on people who prefer to believe him over reality.

Easier pill to swallow than admitting you live in a bubble

Re: Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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Post by chihuahua »

dmonitor wrote: post #88
dieselgate wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not getting into politics at all but I imagine it'd be utter chaos if anything similar were to happen to Trump, that's an interesting perspective to hear though.

If Trump died, and in the aftermath it was revealed he had ties to a Chinese cult, his only remaining supporters would probably be the cult-like reality deniers.

That Chinese cult would suddenly be immensely popular among tens of millions of Americans. Those people would dedicate their lives to the cult.
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