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Re: Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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Post by capableweb »

mola wrote: post #82
capableweb wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is that so crazy? Happens all the time that people get assassinated and the public sides with the assassin. If the US was successful with any of their plots to assassinate Castro I'm sure the US public would mostly side with their government about it, as a relatively famous example. Another more contemporary example would be the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin (prime minister of Israel) in 95, which had a lot of l…

There was not a lot of public support for the assassination of Rabin. That's a lie.

Ultra-national movement in Israel was strong then and is still strong, a movement which publicly were happy about the assassination as they thought that Rabin would lead down the road of loosing ground to Palestine.

Re: Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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Post by [deleted] »

graphe wrote: post #38

The sushi trade is unable to be separated from the moonies. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/11/05/magazine/sush... that will be Moon's legacy I know from personal experience that many Koreans who own sushi restaurants are part of this cult, they knew each other at church all donated a lot and the only reason I know is that my friend dated a girl whose parents were part of it.

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Re: Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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mcpackieh wrote: post #10

> "Eating raw tuna was still an exotic pursuit to Americans when Moon—the self-declared “king of the ocean”—began investing in shipyards in the late 1970s and sending his followers to sell door-to-door from refrigerated vans. True World Foods, a seafood company founded at Moon’s direction, controls a large share of the sushi trade, selling raw fish to thousands of restaurants across the United States and Canada." Huh

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Re: Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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Post by selimthegrim »

mola wrote: post #82
capableweb wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is that so crazy? Happens all the time that people get assassinated and the public sides with the assassin. If the US was successful with any of their plots to assassinate Castro I'm sure the US public would mostly side with their government about it, as a relatively famous example. Another more contemporary example would be the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin (prime minister of Israel) in 95, which had a lot of l…

There was not a lot of public support for the assassination of Rabin. That's a lie.

You might want to ask Netanyahu about that.

Re: Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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Post by jksk61 »

sneed_chucker wrote: post #31
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #16

Meta comment on cultural awareness: "Japan wants you to say its leader’s name correctly: Abe Shinzo [1]" Why authors are still messing this up almost 5 years later is bewildering [1] https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/21/asia/japan-name-abe-shinzo-in...

Cool, now anyone reading the name needs to be familiar with East Asian naming conventions to know which is the given and which is the family name. Should we just print it in katakana too, so that we're not "culturally unaware"?

well it could be useful in literature where there are way too many zhang...

Re: Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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Post by lern_too_spel »

graphe wrote: post #60
lern_too_spel wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that's true, "maybe" we should have let Hitler live. In real-life, losing a horse or breaking a leg is a bad outcome over 99% of the time, and gaining free horses and avoiding conscription (and defeating despots attempting to conquer the world) is a good outcome over 99% of the time.

Hitler could have united Europe. Had he won and taken over Russia and Europe it could have been much better. Had Genghis Khan not attacked so many places, legends of centuars may not exist and the world could be better. We don't know.

Or more likely, Hitler would have exterminated millions more, and civilization would have crumbled under fascist ideology.

Why don't you chop off your arm? You don't know if that will turn out to be good. Stories like that of the Chinese farmer and Pippi Longstocking are for children, not for thinking adults to blindly believe. The point of the Chinese farmer for children is that even though bad things happen, things can get better, which helps them get over it. To make it go down easier, they show that even though good things happen, things can get worse.

Re: Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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Post by throwaway128128 »

treme wrote: post #70

It's fascinating to me that moonies managed to have Abe & Trump speak at their event for millions. Probably one of most fascinating political cults of modern times.

The Moonies have woven themselves into the American right wing for decades. Reagan said the Washington Times, which is an organ of the Unification Church, was his favorite newspaper.

You can see Falun Gong attempting the same in the United States. The Epoch Times is Falun Gong's "media outlet" and it sponsors and shapes a lot of content online. It's all bankrolled by Shen Yun performances too. These rabbit holes go to strange places!

Re: Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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Post by api »

throwaway128128 wrote: post #98
treme wrote: post #70

It's fascinating to me that moonies managed to have Abe & Trump speak at their event for millions. Probably one of most fascinating political cults of modern times.

The Moonies have woven themselves into the American right wing for decades. Reagan said the Washington Times, which is an organ of the Unification Church, was his favorite newspaper. You can see Falun Gong attempting the same in the United States. The Epoch Times is Falun Gong's "media outlet" and it sponsors and shapes a lot of content online. It's all bankrolled by Shen Yun performances too. These rabbit holes go t…

Lately I’ve seen tons and tons of anti trans content that actually says sponsored by the Epoch Times. I’ve see it on Facebook and Xitter.

I don’t get why that issue is so important to them. Maybe scaring people about trans people is just broadly working.

Gotta fear monger or people might notice that most of our candidates are incompetent. Republicans are unelectable without scaring people about LGBT people and immigrants, while Democrats are unelectable without scaring people about Republicans. That seems to be the dynamic right now.

Re: Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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Post by depereo »

capableweb wrote: post #89
shadowgovt wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a very powerful notion in general. In an extremely real way, justice is just "codified vibes." The primary purpose of a functioning judicial system is really to allow the public to sleep soundly in their beds at night.

> The primary purpose of a functioning judicial system is really to allow the public to sleep soundly in their beds at night *In some countries. In others, the primary purpose is rehabilitation so people can eventually re-join society as "better people".

That's the same thing, just with different publicly accepted definitions of 'safe'.
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