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Is there anywhere in the world someone can just live for free?

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Re: Is there anywhere in the world someone can just live for free?

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Took me a minute to recognize that “City bus in Alaska” is a reference to Christopher McCandless of “Into the Wild” fame.

Honestly if I decided that I wanted to withdraw from society, I’d probably go to Alaska too. Not that I have any reason to believe I would fare much better than McCandless.

Re: Is there anywhere in the world someone can just live for free?

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International waters (the 'high seas') are free and represent about 50% of the world's surface

Obtaining a vessel that can reach international waters (let alone one that enables you to survive there for a long time) is quite expensive.

Re: Is there anywhere in the world someone can just live for free?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That support comes with requirements and they will try to get you "reintegrated" and into a job so that you can support yourself. To use it as a salary with no intention to work is not according to the purpose of this service.

Another way to look at this would be in the context of subsidies aimed at less populated areas of the country. A lot of people are concerned about the countryside going empty, and there are various policies aimed at reversing or at least halting that. They are necessarily income-transfer programs where cities subsidize the countryside. An individual getting paid 500 euros to live in a remote area doesn’t seem like a…

Would the aim of such programs not be to have a working society in those less populated areas instead of just filling it with non-working people completely dependent on others?

Re: Is there anywhere in the world someone can just live for free?

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The monastic community of Mount Athos, Greece. It's free in the sense you don't pay anything, but you have to become an Orthodox monk, with whatever that entails

Actually there are many orthodox monasteries (including in the US) where you can live for free and are open to women too. You have work whatever they give you, and of course obey the (pretty strict) rules.

Re: Is there anywhere in the world someone can just live for free?

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It's interesting how quality of life baselines have increased so much in the last century. If you wanted to have the QOL of someone that lived in the American West a hundred years ago, it could be done today for probably $100 a month all-inclusive of food, clothing, and shelter. But you'd be eating the same 5-10 things repeatedly, wearing the same clothes, have a few books for entertainment, minimal or no electronics…

I have a very low material quantity of life, but my spiritual quality of life is pretty good even as I live homeless with a disability in a minivan in the United States.

Americans are way too materialistic and there needs to be a reckoning of this if anything is going to change. Even people I meet that live in other minivans or RVs want to have every single creature comfort they had when they were living in a house. I decided that in my van I would only carry what I need for the van or things I can easily put in the backpack and walk away with.

I definitely use the free places. They list in the Reddit post. At west I always stay on the BLM lands.

Re: Is there anywhere in the world someone can just live for free?

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If you’re a citizen or legal resident of a Nordic country, you’ll get paid basic subsistence when you have no other income. In Finland this is around 500 euros / month. There are lots of empty houses in the remote countryside in Finland (and I presume the same is true for parts of Sweden and Norway). You can probably rent something for next to nothing, or even make a deal with the owner to stay for free in exchange f…

It’s called living on the dole, most western countries have social security like this. It’s not really meant for long term living but as a safety net for periods when you might find yourself unemployed.

Also, most countries have very cheap housing in the countryside/remote areas, in northern countries you have to factor in heating costs which can be several hundred euros/month during the (long) winter.

Re: Is there anywhere in the world someone can just live for free?

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'It' ? What exactly is immoral and why?

It's the coercive nature by which wealth is redistributed to other people that brings upon the questions of morality. If I'm forced at the end of a barrel of a gun to give up any portion of the fruits of my labor to support others, it is immoral.

That’s what you have to do when peoples hearts are spiritually dead. Otherwise, the people who have nothing will rise up against you anyway.

Re: Is there anywhere in the world someone can just live for free?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

'It' ? What exactly is immoral and why?

It's the coercive nature by which wealth is redistributed to other people that brings upon the questions of morality. If I'm forced at the end of a barrel of a gun to give up any portion of the fruits of my labor to support others, it is immoral.

If the majority of people in your country agrees that wealth redistribution is bad, then just elect a government that will stop doing it.
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