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Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial

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Re: Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial

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Just like Dow Chemical and Union Carbide[1] they claim they are not responsible as the acquired only the assets of Monsanto not the liabilities.... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_disaster

The MSDS for Roundup is hilarious. It's completely safe, no known health effects, as long as you're wearing a full hazmat suite.

Re: Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial

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Just like Dow Chemical and Union Carbide[1] they claim they are not responsible as the acquired only the assets of Monsanto not the liabilities.... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_disaster

I read the wiki article you linked, but could not find any such argument there. UCC seems to have (successfully) argued that UCIL was a separate company, rather than a partial acquisition.

Re: Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial

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People look at you like you're crazy if you tell them you avoid oats, grains, nuts that are particularly heavy in glyphosate.

He was using glyphosate as a weed-killer and getting it on his hands and feet. Way higher levels of exposure than any foods. Also if you're afraid of glyphosate, the Roundup-ready crops are the ones to avoid especially - soy, corn, canola, sugar beets. There's no Roundup-ready wheat, oats, or nuts. (edit: apparently it's used as a desiccant so it winds up in cereals as well - lovely, though still there's no evidence it's got dietary effects).

I'm not really concerned about its dietary effects since there's no evidence there, but as an amateur entomologist the effects of Roundup on butterfly populations have been devastating - in the past milkweed was pretty hard to completely weed out by hand, but modern farming can clear hundreds of acres of every trace of milkweed with Roundup/glyphosate.

Re: Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial

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People look at you like you're crazy if you tell them you avoid oats, grains, nuts that are particularly heavy in glyphosate.

Given that as of 2023:

1. Glyphosate is one of the more heavily studied chemicals known to man.

2. The evidence for it causing cancer is poor. Studies routinely fail to find evidence for it.

3. The subset of studies that do find evidence for such a link, find it in occupational exposure, by people who have been working knee-deep in it for decades. [1]

Yes, people probably should look at you like you're crazy, because you're extrapolating from cherry-picked evidence that supports your priors.

[1] Whose exposure is dramatically higher than that of someone eating food grown with it.

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