Here's a low-effort attempt at putting this all in a single page for everyone complaining about clicking through it: https://rentry.co/iudx6
Enterprise-Fu
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Re: Enterprise-Fu
#32:wave: Hey all. I'm the author. This content is over ten years old now (2013), as is the slide tech backing it. Hopefully it's obvious that the click-to-advance is a style that suits my presentation style, and I would have made different choices if I intended it to be consumed online. In any case, I've learned a lot since this talk and have on occasion considered updating it. I'm pretty surprised it's trending, TBH.
This is waaaaayy easier to read if you Print this to PDF.
Re: Enterprise-Fu
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
The comment predates the author's arrival in the the thread. I did consider the possibility that it was a slide deck, but as a slide deck it appears designed for the presenter to read aloud the words the audience is seeing on the screen. Presenting in that way is generally a much greater sin than simply making a pretentious web page, because the audience is generally trapped when faced with that sort of presentation.…
You know the author is in this thread, you weren’t there when this was presented, and you call “presenting it that way a much greater sin”. Why? What do you hope to accomplish with such a dismissive attitude? You’re making a whole lot of assumptions man.
> You're making a lot of assumptions
That's the whole point of the previous comment.
The author wasn't in the thread originally. Lots of us hit the page and said WTF? You responded. I explained why, prior to the author's arrival, I assumed this was a web page not a presentation.
Re: Enterprise-Fu
#34:wave: Hey all. I'm the author. This content is over ten years old now (2013), as is the slide tech backing it. Hopefully it's obvious that the click-to-advance is a style that suits my presentation style, and I would have made different choices if I intended it to be consumed online. In any case, I've learned a lot since this talk and have on occasion considered updating it. I'm pretty surprised it's trending, TBH.
Have any of your opinions changed in the last 10 years on this topic?
Re: Enterprise-Fu
#35:wave: Hey all. I'm the author. This content is over ten years old now (2013), as is the slide tech backing it. Hopefully it's obvious that the click-to-advance is a style that suits my presentation style, and I would have made different choices if I intended it to be consumed online. In any case, I've learned a lot since this talk and have on occasion considered updating it. I'm pretty surprised it's trending, TBH.
Is there a public recording of you presenting the deck? Would love the full context.
Not that you asked for this, but as a @flavorjones admirer I figured I'd post anyway, my favorite actually recorded talk of theirs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOutXbz_7Ns
Re: Enterprise-Fu
#36:wave: Hey all. I'm the author. This content is over ten years old now (2013), as is the slide tech backing it. Hopefully it's obvious that the click-to-advance is a style that suits my presentation style, and I would have made different choices if I intended it to be consumed online. In any case, I've learned a lot since this talk and have on occasion considered updating it. I'm pretty surprised it's trending, TBH.
I don't want to take away from the content or anything, however Firefox is giving me an SSL certificate does not exist on the site.
Only mentioning for fidelity
Re: Enterprise-Fu
#37:wave: Hey all. I'm the author. This content is over ten years old now (2013), as is the slide tech backing it. Hopefully it's obvious that the click-to-advance is a style that suits my presentation style, and I would have made different choices if I intended it to be consumed online. In any case, I've learned a lot since this talk and have on occasion considered updating it. I'm pretty surprised it's trending, TBH.
Have any of your opinions changed in the last 10 years on this topic?
Hmm. I don't think my opinions have changed too much.
I would _definitely_ present these ideas differently today; the language we all use to describe problems and solutions has changed quite a bit in the meantime.
And how I _apply_ these tactics and strategies is much less confrontational than when I was in fintech, mostly because I'm older and more patient.
But the essence of the advice in here is still a big part of how I work: having a technical roadmap to match the product roadmap; getting small wins on the path to long-term goals; talking about what you've built and showing it off; taking responsibility for product and design decisions if nobody else is; building a team who will share ownership; diagnosing dysfunction with Vaillant's defense mechanisms; using estimates to pay off technical debt and experiment with new technology and approaches. All of these tactics and strategies are still valuable in my opinion.
Re: Enterprise-Fu
#38It's hard to be critical of the content — if you take it from the perspective of a mid-senior developer within a non-Big Tech role who is starting to see into the leadership decisions being made or pathways available to them, it's probably true to their experience. But I would caveat that the "hell is other people" and "learn to not-obey" section are recommending behaviours that at best the organisation's people mana…
I can see how the slides might come across as confrontational or not-collaborative; but when I gave the talk in person I think the message was much more positive.
One of the core ideas is to identify -- and even search out! -- people who you can collaborate with. For the people who will put obstacles in your way, either find a way to work around them, or find a way to align them to your team's goals. Avoiding open conflict is a big part of the message, and I'm sorry it didn't come through in the slides.
On the topic of "career-limiting" moves, that might be true, but I think there's some nuance. If you know what is the right thing to do for your employer, and you're afraid to do it because you might get fired, you're gonna have a bad time. My advice is to get past your fears and do the right thing and take some risks, or else buckle up for a career of quiet desperation that is likely limited by your avoidance of responsibility and the absence of meaningful successes.
Re: Enterprise-Fu
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
You know the author is in this thread, you weren’t there when this was presented, and you call “presenting it that way a much greater sin”. Why? What do you hope to accomplish with such a dismissive attitude? You’re making a whole lot of assumptions man.
> You're making a lot of assumptions That's the whole point of the previous comment. The author wasn't in the thread originally. Lots of us hit the page and said WTF? You responded. I explained why, prior to the author's arrival, I assumed this was a web page not a presentation.
That's valid. I think familiarity with Takahashi style presentations (https://presentationpatterns.com/glossary/#takahashi) helps. These are admittedly less common in corporate settings, though I have given one or two.
Re: Enterprise-Fu
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have any of your opinions changed in the last 10 years on this topic?
Hmm. I don't think my opinions have changed too much. I would _definitely_ present these ideas differently today; the language we all use to describe problems and solutions has changed quite a bit in the meantime. And how I _apply_ these tactics and strategies is much less confrontational than when I was in fintech, mostly because I'm older and more patient. But the essence of the advice in here is still a big part o…
A lot of this sounds like "You can make bad to okay money doing other people's jobs while they collect a salary working 1 hour a week." Enterprisy indeed.
Anyway, has it ever been the case that someone asks Pivotal (1) to do something well-specified (2) that they really, truly can't do themselves (3) but actually makes sense to do, like is positive ROI? If those three things align, you are never hiring a contractor!