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YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

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Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

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I don't see how this comment tracks with the events. Content creators on Youtube are paid from ads and subscriptions. If they want to give their content away for free, they can turn off Youtube ads since they are the ones turning them on in the first place.

As an individual creator you can make that decision, but if YouTube as a whole annoys your viewer base to the point that they use YouTube less then you have a problem.

That's a stretch. Even if Google, an entirely metrics driven company, decided to destroy their metrics, there isn't any good alternatives to Youtube. At best you'll be going to TikTok, but most YouTube channels can't be sustained on TikTok's revenue model.

Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

#73
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That's not true. The revenue share has been stable at 55% to the creators / 45% to YouTube for more than a decade.

Youtube takes half their revenue?! That's crazy. Man, I thought the app store 30% was bad.

That's for ads.

After a quick googling, Youtube takes 30% of direct memberships. And apparently Twitch takes 50% of the membership fee, reduced to 40% for its bigger channels.

It looks like Patreon will take 12% of direct memberships at the tier that lets you upload video, but Patreon is shit for discovery, especially video discovery, so it's not necessarily pure upside.

Either way, people like to parlay the fact that Youtube has a revenue share into some sort of moral justification for giving the content creators $0 on that platform.

Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

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post #13

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That's not true. The revenue share has been stable at 55% to the creators / 45% to YouTube for more than a decade.

Youtube takes half their revenue?! That's crazy. Man, I thought the app store 30% was bad.

Someone has to pay for bandwidth,storage, compute etc.

Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

#76

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This is trivially untrue. Youtube content creators are the ones who turn on ads and receive the majority revenue share from ads. They also make money from Youtube Premium subscribers, and users can even directly subscribe to channels on Youtube for a monthly fee just like on Patreon. All of those tools are already there on Youtube, so I'm not convinced the crackdown is changing the dynamic for content creators nor fo…

As someone who never posted a video, I want to ask if I upload a video without turning on the ads, does this mean that people who are watching this video will not see any ads?

I believe you need to have a certain amount of subscribers before you have the option to turn them off.

Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

#77

I've been a paying YouTube user since 2016 when it was YouTube Red. YouTube is imo one of the best sites on the internet. Both in terms of content that I personally enjoy and improves my life, as well as its role on the internet overall, where they provide a FREE service that allows EVERYONE to upload as much video as they want, and see what kind of response it gets from a global audience, and even to get paid for th…

Do you ever skip past the shout-outs to the sponsor, or do you sit and pay attention to them out of admiration for the creators who spent so much time making free content for you?

Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

#78

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Boycott YouTube in favor of other video services? Pay for YT Premium? Why spend so much energy bypassing compensation for an otherwise free service? It just pushes more ads in front of less sophisticated users or encourages producers to lock all content behind paywalls.

Happily paying my $10 for YT premium. Best value of $10 a month I can get in this economy. Thousands of hours watched ad-free, and supporting the platform and the creators.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36807803

Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

#79

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Boycott YouTube in favor of other video services? Pay for YT Premium? Why spend so much energy bypassing compensation for an otherwise free service? It just pushes more ads in front of less sophisticated users or encourages producers to lock all content behind paywalls.

Note that when paying for YT premium, you have to be logged in. Google will still collect the data, build your profile, just not show you the resulting ads on youtube. But they will use that data to show you targeted ads elsewhere. Plus now you cannot invalidate that data by dropping cookies, etc.

This is one of the many reasons that Google has never had me as a paying customer, even though I like YouTube's content enough to pay something for it. Over the years, things like this have eroded the trust I have for Google to effectively zero.

Instead I pay other services like Nebula to watch creators I first discovered on YouTube. Unfortunately, most creators don't have an alternative like this in place.

Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

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I avoid anything with Ads and will simply avoid YouTube, as I already have been avoiding it for a long time for simply not having useful content.

To suggest YouTube doesn't have "useful" content seems objectively false. I think it should be considered the 8th wonder of the world. Need to see how to install a car seat? Need to fix a burner on your stove? Need to learn Hindi? Need to hear a live version of a Tom Waits song he only played once? Need to learn more about Philippine-American War? Need to learn what the difference between effect and affect is? My wif…

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