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Re: Apple: Android is a tracking device [pdf]

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All smartphones are. There's only so much you can do to cover your track. There's most likely always someone knowing where you are if your phone is powered on (or even powered off with Apple Find My network). https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/07/ios-15-find-my-network-can-fi...

Find My doesn’t actually map the device to an individual. Someone might know where the device which is currently broadcasting an ID is, but that ID rotates frequently, and can only be resolved to you using keys held against your Apple ID. The entire thing is specifically designed such that objects being tracked by Find My can’t be resolved to individuals, because the network depends upon publicly broadcasting those object’s IDs via Bluetooth.

Re: Apple: Android is a tracking device [pdf]

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This is so crazy to see. Usually when Apple faces the public, everything is super curated to sound pro-consumer, even if its anti-consumer.

Sure this PDF doesnt venture far from it, they still paint Apple in the prettiest picture, but the terminology shows that Apple is basically doing the same thing as google but with slightly different methods to blur it. Heck, we don't actually know what is going on inside an iPhone, they could be combining accounts and sending data to Cambridge Analytica for all we know. At least with a degoogled Android, you know exactly where everything is going.

This is the classic gaslighting that I've come to expect.

Re: Apple: Android is a tracking device [pdf]

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This is so crazy to see. Usually when Apple faces the public, everything is super curated to sound pro-consumer, even if its anti-consumer. Sure this PDF doesnt venture far from it, they still paint Apple in the prettiest picture, but the terminology shows that Apple is basically doing the same thing as google but with slightly different methods to blur it. Heck, we don't actually know what is going on inside an iPho…

> Heck, we don't actually know what is going on inside an iPhone, they could be combining accounts and sending data to Cambridge Analytica for all we know.

You have a point. Apple depends so much on security by obscurity.

Re: Apple: Android is a tracking device [pdf]

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This is so crazy to see. Usually when Apple faces the public, everything is super curated to sound pro-consumer, even if its anti-consumer. Sure this PDF doesnt venture far from it, they still paint Apple in the prettiest picture, but the terminology shows that Apple is basically doing the same thing as google but with slightly different methods to blur it. Heck, we don't actually know what is going on inside an iPho…

In the Apple world, they basically carefully redefined privacy as "anyones else besides us getting access". They put themselves as a fully trusted party for everything.
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