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I recently accidentally triggered a years old vuln in my Firefox, because ESR is shit and Debian is shit and why on earth would people want to use outdated software? I regret installing Debian :D
Which specific vulnerability are you talking about?
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Re: Mozilla treats Debian devotees to the raw taste of Firefox Nightly
#102I think web browsers should be the exception to Distro's "stable" release rules. Browsers do not work at all like every other package. There are so many security implications, everything is so complex that I really think having whatever is the newest release is actually the most stable strategy. New releases tend to be pretty stable considering how much testing they get everywhere.
Of course not. There are no other programms on my linux system, executing remote code. (ok, there is rust (crates), but i avoid it).
> There are so many security implications, everything is so complex that I really think having whatever is the newest release is actually the most stable strategy.
If they would only fix bugs, then yes. In reality they introduce new ones.
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That's absolutely fine. You do you. For me, that is way more work than I want. I am old and grumpy and want an easy life and tools that work acceptably out of the box. For playing around, that's different. Thus A2 and Haiku and things. But for work, if it needs that much work to adjust the shipped distro to me, then it is the wrong distro. There are good reasons I don't run Arch.
I'm 'old' too. Born summer 1969. What makes me grumpy is the OOTB experience of any distro I tried. And I (mostly) don't want to have to compile stuff anymore. So I settled for (mostly) binary distros, like Arch, which btw. I (mostly) had no troubles with whatsoever. It just lacked 'convenience' and some scientific/technical stuff in their repositories, which I'd then have to compile again, so no, Arch had to go. Set…
I have found several distros over the years that had an out-of-the-box experience that made them usable for me. MX is close, openSUSE with Xfce is a very good distro, but at present, Ubuntu with Unity is the least work of all. Two of my machines are running an install that started out as 13.04 or so. Over a decade of longevity is excellent in my book.
Oberon is a hoot, if very weird indeed. I'd love to see a native Raspberry Pi version.
Sadly I came off my bicycle in April and smashed my right forearm to flinders. The surgeons save it, but it is held together with about 35 pieces of steel, and still very fragile and can't be used for much... except typing. I think this means I have to give up bicycles, and I bought my first car in August. :-/
Re: Mozilla treats Debian devotees to the raw taste of Firefox Nightly
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I'm 'old' too. Born summer 1969. What makes me grumpy is the OOTB experience of any distro I tried. And I (mostly) don't want to have to compile stuff anymore. So I settled for (mostly) binary distros, like Arch, which btw. I (mostly) had no troubles with whatsoever. It just lacked 'convenience' and some scientific/technical stuff in their repositories, which I'd then have to compile again, so no, Arch had to go. Set…
I have about 2 years on you then... I just about _remember_ the Summer of '69, and I don't just mean the song. I have found several distros over the years that had an out-of-the-box experience that made them usable for me. MX is close, openSUSE with Xfce is a very good distro, but at present, Ubuntu with Unity is the least work of all. Two of my machines are running an install that started out as 13.04 or so. Over a…
Had a very badly broken upper arm/shoulder though by industrial accident, while doing everything by the book, following any fucking rule, protective shoes, helmet, reflective clothing. But something weighing a few 100 tons tore free and gave me a fast kick. Shit happens. Had only 7 screws and a plate in, for about 10 years. Limited movement only, and pain. Now an endoprosthetic like an artificial hip joint, but for the shoulder. Full (and fast) movement and load-bearing again, no pain. Can do pushups and pullups.
I'm telling this because doctors initially said that I had to suck it up, that there wouldn't be a better outcome with endoprosthetics. Some decade later, somewhere else, they looked at and into it, asking me If I'd be crazy? 'That stuff has to go out!' Me: 'R u sure? I've been told...' They: 'Forget that! That's all wrong!'
Now there may have been some progress in surgical procedures and endoprosthetics fur upper arm and shoulder joint in that decade, but not that much. I also opted out of robodoc, and had it done by an old and experienced surgeon by hand.
Watch out for medical misinfo and get well. HTH
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I have about 2 years on you then... I just about _remember_ the Summer of '69, and I don't just mean the song. I have found several distros over the years that had an out-of-the-box experience that made them usable for me. MX is close, openSUSE with Xfce is a very good distro, but at present, Ubuntu with Unity is the least work of all. Two of my machines are running an install that started out as 13.04 or so. Over a…
Sorry to hear that mishap. Had many 'near misses' but never got hurt. Not even scratches. Still not wearing a helmet. Had a very badly broken upper arm/shoulder though by industrial accident, while doing everything by the book, following any fucking rule, protective shoes, helmet, reflective clothing. But something weighing a few 100 tons tore free and gave me a fast kick. Shit happens. Had only 7 screws and a plate…