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Sam Bankman-Fried Convicted

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Re: Sam Bankman-Fried Convicted

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Post by crossroadsguy »

ipaddr wrote: post #212
duxup wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was on a jury recently. Deliberations began after closing statements Friday morning. First thing we all agreed we would not be coming back on Monday…

I was on a jury. We pushed it a little longer to get it to that last free lunch and make it long enough not to go back in the jury pool.

Is the lunch nice? Do you get paid as well? What kind of hotels are you all kept in? Is it like in those Hollywood films? How common are things like jury tempering? Do you all have sufficient protection?

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried Convicted

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Post by duxup »

garciasn wrote: post #204
duxup wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was on a jury recently. Deliberations began after closing statements Friday morning. First thing we all agreed we would not be coming back on Monday…

As long as it was clear a decision could be made in time, fine. But, frankly, if I were on trial by a jury of my peers, I’d appreciate it if people took their time.

In our case it was a civil trial and effectively we were just picking $ amount to pay out.

It also turned out that we were all mostly on the same page.

Criminal stuff i certainly would have not agreed.

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried Convicted

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Post by duxup »

ipaddr wrote: post #212
duxup wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was on a jury recently. Deliberations began after closing statements Friday morning. First thing we all agreed we would not be coming back on Monday…

I was on a jury. We pushed it a little longer to get it to that last free lunch and make it long enough not to go back in the jury pool.

Yeah we got free lunch, ordered it that morning. Good stuff, from a nice deli.

In our case if you reached a verdict you were done serving so no need to drag it out.

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried Convicted

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

dmvdoug wrote: post #61
AustinDev wrote: post #9

Well... this is justice. Sadly, we don't get to see justice very often. This is life in prison, correct? I know he hasn't been sentenced but all counts is easily several life sentences at the federal level. When do the parents go on trial? I can't see how they make it out of this without at least having all their ill-begotten assets stripped.

That’s not how sentencing works. You can’t just add up the counts and get a number. Federal sentencing involves a Byzantine process, starting with the federal sentencing guidelines. I am not even going to attempt to wade into that since it makes even federal criminal lawyers get twitchy. That said, Ken White (a.k.a. Popehat) has suggested the time in prison would be substantial . So if/when he gets out, he’ll be elde…

Is sentencing deterministic?

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried Convicted

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Post by duxup »

pdmccormick wrote: post #222
duxup wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was on a jury recently. Deliberations began after closing statements Friday morning. First thing we all agreed we would not be coming back on Monday…

Was it a slam dunk case for a prosecution, or obviously reasonable doubt?

Civil case and we found were all on the same page pretty fast. It was a pretty one sided case.

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried Convicted

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Post by rurp »

harryquach wrote: post #118
idlewords wrote: post #28

In under five hours! The jury was home in time for dinner. One question for legal people—why is there such a long gap between conviction and sentencing? In this case, the sentence won't be set until March of next year.

Imagine sitting in a prison cell, for 5 months, having no idea how long you will be there. That sounds almost worse than knowing your sentence. At the end of the day he deserves everything he's getting

True, although in this case he's looking at so many years of prison time that I doubt exact number makes much difference right now.
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