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Sam Bankman-Fried Convicted

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Is this the actual article? It looks like some live twitter-style thread with a bunch a random updates.

It's just how the NYT prefers to provide a "live updates" thread. They will also write other, more fully fleshed out, articles on whatever topic is available via "live updates".

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I'm not too familiar with the American system, could someone please explain how after the verdict does the sentencing work? The judge is the one who will now decide the sentence? And how long does that decision take, so when will we know what the consequences of the guilty verdict actually are? (For example, how many years in prison, or not).

Typically decided by the judge. There is a table of different degrees of crimes that have sentencing guidelines for minimum/maximum sentence. The judge will choose where on that spectrum the sentence lies. edit: From Ars Technica The five charges related to wire fraud and money laundering carry maximum sentences of 20 years each, while the two securities and commodities fraud charges have maximum sentences of five ye…

Isn't there also the possibility of concurrent versus consecutive sentencing?

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post #160
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https://time.com/6330323/sbf-trial-biggest-bombshells/ - interesting in this article showing what Alameda spent their stolen money on is that they made a $500million bet/investment on Anthropic, who Google just committed to investing $2billion into. Could have turned out great!

Could have? FTX still owns that investment into Anthropic and the bankruptcy proceedings are sorting it out.

Over a longer timeframe than they had

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post #89

Like many of his strategies at FTX, his high risk approach to this trial for a high value payout (taking no plea deal and getting out with no charges) hasn’t worked out. I wonder if he himself is accepting of the outcome and isn’t already scheming or relying on another all-in gamble.

I don’t think he was ever offered a plea deal

I wonder if a valid option could have been to plea guilty and throw himself at the mercy of the court to receive a lesser sentence.

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I'm certain he will out soon with a slap on the wrist (don't do this again, mmmok? sorry, i didn't know, won't happen again). Then a16z will give him a few billions to start the next chapter in life. Wework is close to filing bankruptcy, a16z is funding Adam Neumann's next startup. SBF is similarly talented.

From back when FTX imploded: "Kevin O'Leary Says He'd Invest in FTX Founder Sam Bankman-Fried Again"

https://gizmodo.com/kevin-o-leary-bitcoin-ftx-ponzi-sam-bank...

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried Convicted

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post #48

I'm not too familiar with the American system, could someone please explain how after the verdict does the sentencing work? The judge is the one who will now decide the sentence? And how long does that decision take, so when will we know what the consequences of the guilty verdict actually are? (For example, how many years in prison, or not).

Typically decided by the judge. There is a table of different degrees of crimes that have sentencing guidelines for minimum/maximum sentence. The judge will choose where on that spectrum the sentence lies. edit: From Ars Technica The five charges related to wire fraud and money laundering carry maximum sentences of 20 years each, while the two securities and commodities fraud charges have maximum sentences of five ye…

Can they be served consecutively or not?

i.e. Is SBF going to spend the rest of his life in jail?

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried Convicted

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I'm certain he will out soon with a slap on the wrist (don't do this again, mmmok? sorry, i didn't know, won't happen again). Then a16z will give him a few billions to start the next chapter in life. Wework is close to filing bankruptcy, a16z is funding Adam Neumann's next startup. SBF is similarly talented.

> I'm certain he will out soon with a slap on the wrist Did you expect he'd never be charged? Did you expect he'd never be found guilty? I don't know where this kind of cynicism is coming from. I'd be absolutely shocked if he's sentenced to less than 5 years. I expect him to actually get north of 15 years.

I was guessing he would get in the neighborhood of at least half or so of Bernie Madoff 150 years since the dollar amount is so high.

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried Convicted

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I'm certain he will out soon with a slap on the wrist (don't do this again, mmmok? sorry, i didn't know, won't happen again). Then a16z will give him a few billions to start the next chapter in life. Wework is close to filing bankruptcy, a16z is funding Adam Neumann's next startup. SBF is similarly talented.

SBF is the opposite of talented. He’s actually a moron, and a conceited one at that.
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