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Sam Bankman-Fried Convicted

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Re: Sam Bankman-Fried Convicted

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Post by ncallaway »

bo1024 wrote: post #122

Anyone know where to get good details? Specifically: do they know where the money went? If not, how did they prove intent (I assume they proved intent)? Edit: another thing I'm wondering is about jurisdiction, since most of this occurred offshore and didn't involve US customers.

If you want a good summary of each day of trial: https://www.theverge.com/authors/elizabeth-lopatto and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHD5JP6xZcE&list=PLySrw1Nvf-...

If you want a really detailed overview of his testimony and cross-examination: https://www.youtube.com/@molly0xfff/streams

> do they know where the money went

Not all of it (at least, not for the trial). They showed significant components of it as part of the trial, but they don't need to show a super detailed breakdown of every single dollar as part of the trial, so I don't think we got that.

> If not, how did they prove intent (I assume they proved intent)?

Circumstantial evidence and witness testimony mostly. Including a cross-examination of Sam that thoroughly undermined his credibility.

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried Convicted

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Post by wmf »

dragontamer wrote: post #119
tantalor wrote: post #76

No, they had pizza: https://twitter.com/tolstoybb/status/1720228218672988667?t=t...

I'm assuming it went like this: "So this guy is guilty right?" (10x other Jurors) "Agreed". (That one "For Fairness" Juror) "I dunno, we're sending this guy to jail for an awfully long time. I think we need to think it over a bit longer." "Fine, Lets get pizza". * 4 hours later * "Okay, we thought about it some more. He's guilty right?" (11x other Jurors) Guilty. ----------- At least, I'm amused by the thought of a "…

The jury actually requested to read some of the evidence around an hour before they finished.

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried Convicted

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preciousoo wrote: post #115

> A high school librarian, a retired investment banker and a Metro North train conductor: Sam Bankman-Fried’s fate is in the hands of a diverse group of jurors who sat through weeks of scathing testimony against the former cryptocurrency mogul. Maybe I watch too much TV, but I wonder how the investment banker was allowed to stay on Jury. I've heard mostly anecdotes that lawyers do everything in their power to get exp…

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Re: Sam Bankman-Fried Convicted

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Post by tkgally »

preciousoo wrote: post #115

> A high school librarian, a retired investment banker and a Metro North train conductor: Sam Bankman-Fried’s fate is in the hands of a diverse group of jurors who sat through weeks of scathing testimony against the former cryptocurrency mogul. Maybe I watch too much TV, but I wonder how the investment banker was allowed to stay on Jury. I've heard mostly anecdotes that lawyers do everything in their power to get exp…

I wondered the same thing. Maybe the retired investment banker had been involved only in conventional banking and had no connection to crypto or other more speculative investments.

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Post by Waterluvian »

idlewords wrote: post #28

In under five hours! The jury was home in time for dinner. One question for legal people—why is there such a long gap between conviction and sentencing? In this case, the sentence won't be set until March of next year.

Federal sentencing guidelines are a complex formula that require visiting at least one oracle atop a mountain.

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Post by chasil »

pbj1968 wrote: post #44
idlewords wrote: post #28

In under five hours! The jury was home in time for dinner. One question for legal people—why is there such a long gap between conviction and sentencing? In this case, the sentence won't be set until March of next year.

Give him a chance to wrap things up. He’s not going anywhere in the interim.

Why is this guy even in the country?

He could have chartered a boat to Venezuela and taken a few hundred million with him.

Of course, all the people he defrauded might follow him.

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried Convicted

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Post by Moto7451 »

pbj1968 wrote: post #44
idlewords wrote: post #28

In under five hours! The jury was home in time for dinner. One question for legal people—why is there such a long gap between conviction and sentencing? In this case, the sentence won't be set until March of next year.

Give him a chance to wrap things up. He’s not going anywhere in the interim.

Another softball interview at the New York Times I’m sure.
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