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Re: Cloudflare API Down

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post #89

Looks like Salesforce and Cloudflare sharing the same datacenter. Salesforce had the same issue today and they mentioned similar power failure as the root cause. It is a known fact that salesforce is running its "Hyperforce" in AWS. Does that mean Cloudflare also using AWS? Does anyone faced any issue on AWS resources today?

Cloudflare, as far is I know, doesn't use any AWS products.

Re: Cloudflare API Down

#132
post #31

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Many more will get an extended coffee break.

Some will get an eternal coffee break.

Tbh. Cloudflare is transparant with these kind of cases, they don't do "scape goating". When everyone in tech was firing, they didn't.

When an employee made a mistake, Cloudflare refused to name the person and said it was a mistake of the organisation ( was looking for the article, but couldn't find it).

During the last years ( lot's of companies fired lots employees because of rising interest, overhiring during Covid, ... ).

Contrary: The only time they fired employees in a larger quantity, was in Q2 2023 for the sales department, regarding underperformers ( performing 1/5th of the average). This was described here based on the earnings call: https://softwarestackinvesting.com/cloudflare-net-q2-2023-ea... and it's about 100 employees ( on > 3300), where they tried to re-hire others ( who got fired elsewhere because of the raised interests of the FED).

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#133
post #96

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This can just be multiple datacenters located close together (~100 km) similar to AWS AZs.

Fun fact, on certain (major) cloud providers, in certain regions, AZs are sometimes different floors of the same building :)

I like how clear Azure is on this:

> Availability zones are unique physical locations within an Azure region. Each zone is made up of one or more datacenters with independent power, cooling, and networking. The physical separation of availability zones within a region limits the impact to applications and data from zone failures, such as power and cooling failures, large-scale flooding, major storms and superstorms, and other events that could disrupt site access, safe passage, extended utilities uptime, and the availability of resources.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/architecture/high-av...

Re: Cloudflare API Down

#134
post #105
post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fun fact, on certain (major) cloud providers, in certain regions, AZs are sometimes different floors of the same building :)

You may be obligated not to name them, but I'm not: Google.

That actually wasn't the one I was thinking of!

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#135
post #133
post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fun fact, on certain (major) cloud providers, in certain regions, AZs are sometimes different floors of the same building :)

I like how clear Azure is on this: > Availability zones are unique physical locations within an Azure region. Each zone is made up of one or more datacenters with independent power, cooling, and networking. The physical separation of availability zones within a region limits the impact to applications and data from zone failures, such as power and cooling failures, large-scale flooding, major storms and superstorms,…

I think they expanded Tokyo but previously that was a single-building "region"

And it's virtually impossible to make, say, a Singapore region resilient to natural disasters

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#136
post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like how clear Azure is on this: > Availability zones are unique physical locations within an Azure region. Each zone is made up of one or more datacenters with independent power, cooling, and networking. The physical separation of availability zones within a region limits the impact to applications and data from zone failures, such as power and cooling failures, large-scale flooding, major storms and superstorms,…

I think they expanded Tokyo but previously that was a single-building "region" And it's virtually impossible to make, say, a Singapore region resilient to natural disasters

Did they claim Tokyo was more than one availability zone? If the 'tokyo' region was only ever claimed to be '1 availability zone' I think being in a single building technically still satisfies my quote above.

But yes, agreed.

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#137
post #136

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I think they expanded Tokyo but previously that was a single-building "region" And it's virtually impossible to make, say, a Singapore region resilient to natural disasters

Did they claim Tokyo was more than one availability zone? If the 'tokyo' region was only ever claimed to be '1 availability zone' I think being in a single building technically still satisfies my quote above. But yes, agreed.

Yes, in the API you got multiple AZs.

Re: Cloudflare API Down

#138
It's now been 12 hours and they are still having issues.

I'm taking an online video course in music production and they host their videos on cloudflare stream and none of them work.

https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cloudflare-stream/

The single point of failure of half the internet continues to rear it's head.

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#139
post #40
post #37

I dunno. Cloudflare gives me the creeps. I have no idea why so many folks think large swaths of the Internet should be reliant on a single company.

In principle I agree with this, but do feel this is said more readily about Cloudflare than other companies it could said about - such as Amazon (via AWS), Google and Microsoft. Perhaps my own mental model is wrong, but I see them as a credible challenger to those very oligopolistic companies, and wish there were more Cloudflares.

I feel the same way. What about Akamai, Fastly, or Okta? Maybe Cloudflare gets more attention because their low end plans are accessible to anyone.

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#140

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How many little sites do you run that get hit by DDoS? I personally run about 10 tiny websites myself, some of them have around ~1-2K daily active users, but neither of them have suffered from any DDoS frequently nor do they use CloudFlare at all. One has been hit once by a DDoS that kept trying for ~2 days to bring the site down, but a simple "ban IPs based on hitting rate limits" did the trick to avoid going down,…

You could do this with anything. X hasn't happened to me, so I bet it doesn't happen to other people, so people who take measures against X are misinformed/cargo-culting (unlike me who is conveniently the smart one in my narrative). Most services I've built that achieved any sort of traction have dealt with some sort of DoS including large fees when I've used CDNs like Cloudfront that are susceptible to a wget loop.…

> IP address spoofing is still possible today and you'll begin to realize how broken the internet has always been

not that you need to have the answer to make your point, but now I am curious: what is the alternative architecture that prevents IP address spoofing? Wouldn't proving you are the IP you purport to be require some sort of authentication, which requires some centralized authority to implement? Which would require a fundamentally centralized internet?

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