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I think the idea is to use Cloudflare Workers to add more sophisticated functionality.
But then you start paying for Worker's bandwidth, correct?
From S3 to R2: An economic opportunity
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Re: From S3 to R2: An economic opportunity
#82Is there any reason to not use R2 over a competing storage service? I already use Cloudflare for lots of other things, and don't personally care all that much about the "Cloudflare's near-monopoly as a web intermediary is dangerous" arguments or anything like that.
I don't know about R2 specifically, but we migrated one of our service from S3 to Cloudflare Images, and we have been hit with over 40h+ of down time on CF's side over the last 30 days. One of the outage was 22 hours long. Today's outage has been ongoing for almost 12 hours and is still ongoing, and we have had 2 or 3 others >1h outages.
Every cloud provider has outages sometimes but CF has been horrendous.
We were actually planning on migrating some other parts to R2 but we are just ditching CF altogether and just going to pay a bit more on AWS for reliability.
So if R2 has been impacted even a third as much as CF images, that would definitely be an important consideration.
Re: From S3 to R2: An economic opportunity
#83Is there any reason to not use R2 over a competing storage service? I already use Cloudflare for lots of other things, and don't personally care all that much about the "Cloudflare's near-monopoly as a web intermediary is dangerous" arguments or anything like that.
Is R2 subject to Cloudflare's universal API rate limit? They have an API rate limit of 1200 requests/5 minutes that I've hit many times with their images product.
And they won't increase it unless you become an enterprise customer in which case they'll generously double it.
Re: From S3 to R2: An economic opportunity
#84Is there any reason to not use R2 over a competing storage service? I already use Cloudflare for lots of other things, and don't personally care all that much about the "Cloudflare's near-monopoly as a web intermediary is dangerous" arguments or anything like that.
There is no data locality. If your workload is in AWS already you might save money by keeping the data in the more expensive S3 vs going out to Cloudflare to fetch your bytes and return your results.
If you don't mind having your bits reside elsewhere, Backblaze B2 and Bunny.net single location storage are both cheaper than Cloudflare.
Re: From S3 to R2: An economic opportunity
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Amazon doesn't have unit cost for egress. They charge you for the stuff you put through their pipe, while paying their transit providers only for the size of the pipe (or more often, not paying them anything since they just peer directly with them at an exchange point). Amazon uses $/gb as a price gouging mechanism and also a QoS constraint. Every bit you send through their pipe is basically printing money for them,…
Honest question, how is this different than a toll road? An entity creates a road network with a certain size (lanes, capacity/hour, literal traffic) and pays for it by charging individual cars put through the road.
Or, really, any capital intensive business that makes money through operating costs based on usage rather than total capacity.
Re: From S3 to R2: An economic opportunity
#86Cloudflare has been building a micro-AWS/Vercel competitor and I love it; i.e., serverless functions, queues, sqlite, kv store, object store (R2), etc.
Cloudflare is just reimplementing every service that Akamai has had for 10 years. The only difference is Cloudflare is going after the <$100/mo customer.
Re: From S3 to R2: An economic opportunity
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What's E2? Top google result for "e2 blob storage" is azure, but that can't be it since the pricing table comes at around $18/TB/month.
I think Backblaze B2 is probably the reference (which has free egress up to 3x data stored - https://www.backblaze.com/blog/2023-product-announcement/ ). I don't know of any public S3-compatible provider that is as cheap as 20$/TB/year (roughly ~$0.0016/GB/mo).
Re: From S3 to R2: An economic opportunity
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I imagine it was a typo for backblaze B2? The call out that egress is free for the first 3x of what you have stored matches up.
That’s what I thought they meant as well, but B2 is more like $72/TB/yr. Maybe relevant to another story on the front page right now, they have a very unusual custom keyboard layout that makes it easy to typo e for b and 2 for 7 ;)?
Re: From S3 to R2: An economic opportunity
#90Did Cloudflare share any information on how R2 is built? Like what kind of open source systems they use as the foundation or they built it from scratch?