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Re: Making Bulletproof Wood [video]

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What is missing is comparing against other types of wood of same weight, some wood floor laminates, or the same food without treatment for example. It looks like the wood after treatment is not much better than the same weight of plywood. Testing Penetration With 30 Layers of Wood: 9mm vs. .357 Sig vs. .45ACP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4EeZUPDaNc How much wood will a 9mm bullet go through? https://www.youtube.c…

He did the comparison at the end of the video no?

Ah. He did against the same wood.

Re: Making Bulletproof Wood [video]

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I hate to rain on his parade, but as a bulletproof material that stuff is effectively worthless. An equal density of plain transparent polycarbonate has substantially more ballistic resistance, and is far easier to make and mold to shape. The same can be said for equal densities of steel, aluminum, magnesium, titanium, etc. However... As a material for musical instrument construction, that hyper-densified wood might…

Hmm. I wonder how a violin made out of hyperdense wood would sound like, especially if you used a custom mold for each section so that it was perfectly fitted together?

Or maybe the front plate of an acoustic guitar? I bet the density would mute the highs a little but then the rigidity would increase the overall projection.

Re: Making Bulletproof Wood [video]

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Another observation about the band saw cut...

I don't think that was an indication of weak penetration into the wood. The solution did not darken until later in the process and that means it was penetrating back into the material after it had changed color.

Re: Making Bulletproof Wood [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are literally replying to a comment thread where OP said [about plywood] "While not suitable as personal armor due to thickness (generally around 1.5ft/45cm)" Did you skip that entire part of the conversation and just went to the final comment in the tree?

Spacebacon said: > From my experience shooting plywood, the 9mm would have no problem going through the same thickness. He is legitimately on to something with his process. He's obviously talking about nilered's result. I have no idea what you people are on about with 45cm, 45cm of anything besides styrofoam will stop a bullet.

I have no idea how you read this comment thread and conclude that obviously he's talking about nilred's result and not the comments he was replying to. It's not obvious at all, in fact I don't know how you arrived at this conclusion.

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Another curious material if ballistic protection is your fancy, is fiber reinforced closed cell foamed concrete at a proper density and thickness. While not suitable as personal armor due to thickness (generally around 1.5ft/45cm), it’s something can provide rapid and cheap local access to protection from shrapnel and rifle bullets, which unfortunately is still a genuine concern around the world. At lower density foa…

At 45cm thick, I would hope it will be protecting me against shells, not just rifle bullets...

That’s not really what I’m proposing. It’s not solid concrete, it’s a concrete based foam, with small fiber reinforcement. The point is it’s quite lightweight, both the materials and finished pieces are movable by people without heavy equipment outside of a pickup truck.

Basically it requires a small portable cement mixer, a foam generator and a pump. As an example, one could layer it over defensive fortifications rather quickly, or fabricate human movable slabs which could be placed over trenches. It can even potentially even on vehicle roofs/sides, providing some degree of protection from drones grenades and suicide drones.

Even a fucking tank isn’t going to protect you from a direct artillery shell hit.

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Another curious material if ballistic protection is your fancy, is fiber reinforced closed cell foamed concrete at a proper density and thickness. While not suitable as personal armor due to thickness (generally around 1.5ft/45cm), it’s something can provide rapid and cheap local access to protection from shrapnel and rifle bullets, which unfortunately is still a genuine concern around the world. At lower density foa…

my back of the napkin math only puts this around the same stopping power as plywood of similar thickness. Sand bags work a lot better and are a hell of a lot easier and cheaper to produce

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Re: Making Bulletproof Wood [video]

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Another curious material if ballistic protection is your fancy, is fiber reinforced closed cell foamed concrete at a proper density and thickness. While not suitable as personal armor due to thickness (generally around 1.5ft/45cm), it’s something can provide rapid and cheap local access to protection from shrapnel and rifle bullets, which unfortunately is still a genuine concern around the world. At lower density foa…

my back of the napkin math only puts this around the same stopping power as plywood of similar thickness. Sand bags work a lot better and are a hell of a lot easier and cheaper to produce

What I am talking about is a concrete based foam, with small fiber reinforcement. Basically a bullet catch, that uses space to slow things down, rather than the harder job of stopping it outright. The 45cm number is if one uses a very low density mixture, since it’d be best used when space isn’t a concern. So it’s actually somewhat comparable to styrofoam, but doesn’t burn. That said, there is a wide range of potential mixtures, ranging anywhere from straight concrete to pure foam, so one can increase the density, and make it more compact, but it’s about what you are optimizing for. So that yes the actual capabilities of whatever is being referenced will be a bit confusing unless density is explicitly mentioned. A big prefabricated slab of what I am considering is human movable, and everything needed for on site application fits in a pickup truck. Not quite suitable for frontline application, but would be a great option for those in defensive positions farther back.

Something as simple a spraying a few to several inches some over a tarp would offer huge overhead protection from things like drone grenades or suicide drones in a trench, were implementing wood and sandbags isn’t as widely viable as just dropping a slab that supports it’s own weight.

Re: Making Bulletproof Wood [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spacebacon said: > From my experience shooting plywood, the 9mm would have no problem going through the same thickness. He is legitimately on to something with his process. He's obviously talking about nilered's result. I have no idea what you people are on about with 45cm, 45cm of anything besides styrofoam will stop a bullet.

I have no idea how you read this comment thread and conclude that obviously he's talking about nilred's result and not the comments he was replying to. It's not obvious at all, in fact I don't know how you arrived at this conclusion.

I have no idea how you could read spacebacon's comment and conclude that he believes damn near half a meter of plywood would be insufficient to stop a 9mm bullet. That's so absurd it should have stopped you in your tracks and had you reevaluate what it was spacebacon was saying. How can you seriously believe he was claiming to have experience shooting at half a meter of plywood? The very premise is absurd.

Either spacebacon is completely insane, or he was talking about nilered's video. You chose the 'he's insane' interpretation. I say you're obviously wrong.

Re: Making Bulletproof Wood [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no idea how you read this comment thread and conclude that obviously he's talking about nilred's result and not the comments he was replying to. It's not obvious at all, in fact I don't know how you arrived at this conclusion.

I have no idea how you could read spacebacon's comment and conclude that he believes damn near half a meter of plywood would be insufficient to stop a 9mm bullet. That's so absurd it should have stopped you in your tracks and had you reevaluate what it was spacebacon was saying. How can you seriously believe he was claiming to have experience shooting at half a meter of plywood? The very premise is absurd. Either spa…

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