I have been walking around with this dread ever since the proposal was announced. Thinking about its implications made me appreciate even in today’s screwed up internet we still don’t have it that bad.
An experimental Android WebView Media Integrity API early next year
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#25Doesn't matter, they've already showed their hand with how they're wiling to ignore everyone and try to push through whatever they want.
Google has been claiming to want to break adblockers (although they don’t put it that way) with Manifest v3 and removing Manifest v2 for a while and they have always backed off actually pulling the trigger on it.
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#26TFA is about more than just WEI, but it does address it directly: > We’ve heard your feedback, and the Web Environment Integrity proposal is no longer being considered by the Chrome team. In contrast, the Android WebView Media Integrity API is narrowly scoped, and only targets WebViews embedded in apps. It simply extends existing functionality on Android devices that have Google Mobile Services (GMS) and there are no…
What does your heart tell you? Palladium[1] came and went and then suddenly most laptops and mobile devices have a built-in TPM today. No doubt history will repeat. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next-Generation_Secure_Computi...
Uhm… what?
Your beef is with things like Pluton, Intel’s ME and AMD’s PSP.
TPM at their base are nothing else than a more secure place to store cryptographic data.
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#27Doesn't matter, they've already showed their hand with how they're wiling to ignore everyone and try to push through whatever they want.
They’ve shown their willingness to ignore by… scrapping something that was disliked?
I imagine they're pulling the politician card. When there's a lot of pushback, you scrap it for optics, and then a few months or years later you bring it back under a different name and presented as something new and hope people don't pick up on it. And if they do, then you repeat until people are exhausted enough to not give any pushback anymore.
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#28... (for now)
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#29> backed off WEI
for now
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#30WEI itself was previously discussed across a number of threads, which make interesting reading: (July 2023, 456 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36854114 - "Google's nightmare Web Integrity API wants a DRM gatekeeper for the web" (July 2023, 431 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36817305 - "Web Environment Integrity API Proposal" (July 2023, 434 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?i…
Oof, that hyper-aggressive whitewashing of the DRM proposal from yoavweiss_ was a harsh lesson in realpolitik. Nerds were bringing good faith arguments to a bad faith optics war and getting slaughtered.