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Re: WasmGC – Run GC languages such as Kotlin, Java in Chrome browser

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OCaml has not one but two WASM/WasmGC targeting efforts in development: https://discuss.ocaml.org/t/announcing-the-ocaml-wasm-organi... https://discuss.ocaml.org/t/an-update-from-the-ocaml-wasm-or...

Seems like a bad thing? Why are there two separate workstreams?

Maybe adapting the existing js_of_ocaml project is comparatively easier so they might as well try it.

Re: WasmGC – Run GC languages such as Kotlin, Java in Chrome browser

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post #3

I like using apps on web, like Figma ..etc, no download or update manager, just open an URL. But currently these apps just don't have the fluidity, that's there with native apps, also maintaining large JS codebase is horrible, Typescript doesn't help much in my opinion. WebGPU + new development languages, will hopefully send web-apps to the next level.

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Re: WasmGC – Run GC languages such as Kotlin, Java in Chrome browser

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Maybe I'm old but, we already had this... it was called the tag and it let you embed Java applets. We also had Java Web Start. I feel like this solution in superior to both those things but it still feels like a step backwards.

Yep. Wrote a java applet for DHL back in 2003 to process the export shipment paperwork. Used Java Web Start to deploy. Worked great. Can't remember why applets were killed. Thinking maybe it was because of Microsoft.

Re: WasmGC – Run GC languages such as Kotlin, Java in Chrome browser

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post #14
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I mean sure WASM has allowed C, C++ and Rust to run on the web for awhile now but they aren’t typically languages that web developers tend to have a lot of knowledge of or interest in learning. I think that main use case is not for the web developers who already know the tech needed for web development but actually vice-versa. E.g. you're a C/C++/Rust developer and you want to expose your product as a browser servi…

Already possible with PNaCL and CrossBridge in 2010, but yeah we needed to have it as a standard and delay everything for a decade.

I don't really know about PNaCL or CrossBridge, web is not particularly my domain but I was just trying to state the obvious advantage about WASM.

Re: WasmGC – Run GC languages such as Kotlin, Java in Chrome browser

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post #14
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I mean sure WASM has allowed C, C++ and Rust to run on the web for awhile now but they aren’t typically languages that web developers tend to have a lot of knowledge of or interest in learning. I think that main use case is not for the web developers who already know the tech needed for web development but actually vice-versa. E.g. you're a C/C++/Rust developer and you want to expose your product as a browser servi…

Already possible with PNaCL and CrossBridge in 2010, but yeah we needed to have it as a standard and delay everything for a decade.

You're entirely correct. Non-standard ("proprietary") things tend to not catch on.
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