Home Assistant 2023.11

Post by oakesm9 » Thu, Nov 02, 2023, 2:01 PM UTC

Heliosmaster wrote: post #32

oakesm9 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe the issue is that you used the "Core" installation method which isn't a fully managed installation and only really there for "advanced" use cases. It has this warning above the installation steps: > This is an advanced installation process, and some steps might differ on your system. Considering the nature of this installation type, we assume you can handle subtle differences between this document and the syste…

I use what they recommend: I installed Home Assistant Operating System on a Raspberry PI 3. Which still means there's an OS and there's HA Core. > Home Assistant Operating System: Minimal Operating System optimized to power Home Assistant. It comes with Supervisor to manage Home Assistant Core and Add-ons. Recommended installation method. I tried on purpose to do everything as 'basic' as possible because I don't want…

Post by gaganyaan » Thu, Nov 02, 2023, 2:03 PM UTC

asylteltine wrote: post #84

gaganyaan wrote: post #61

Are they still gallivanting their way around the internet being assholes? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27505277 I still use HA but haven't upgraded in a good while. Partially because of the switch away from YAML, and partially because that link left a pretty sour taste in my mouth.

Who cares and there was no such switch away from yaml

Post by Heliosmaster » Thu, Nov 02, 2023, 2:04 PM UTC

oakesm9 wrote: post #101

Heliosmaster wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use what they recommend: I installed Home Assistant Operating System on a Raspberry PI 3. Which still means there's an OS and there's HA Core. > Home Assistant Operating System: Minimal Operating System optimized to power Home Assistant. It comes with Supervisor to manage Home Assistant Core and Add-ons. Recommended installation method. I tried on purpose to do everything as 'basic' as possible because I don't want…

Ah ok, I misunderstood then. I presumed if you used the OS installation method then the upgrade was done from within the web UI, but I maybe have misunderstood that too.

Post by acidburnNSA » Thu, Nov 02, 2023, 2:11 PM UTC

agloe_dreams wrote: post #58

polivier wrote: post #54

I've never really been into home automation, but when I stumbled upon Philips Hue bulbs on sale for $5 at Home Depot a few years ago, I went ahead a bought a few. It turns out that they are great to wake up the kids on a schedule in the morning. I used the Philips app because it worked well enough that I couldn't be bothered to look for alternatives. Then recently I got a notification saying that the app wouldn't wor…

> The bulbs don't directly work with Home Assistant for protocol reasons They are based on the Zigbee networking standard, that's why you had to buy the stick. It is effectively a networking adapter like a wifi usb adapter. That said, you can buy most other Zigbee devices now as well. Ikea has far cheaper Zigbee switches than Hue or almost anyone and you can configure them to also cross control other HA features.

Post by SingularCrane » Thu, Nov 02, 2023, 2:17 PM UTC

briHass wrote: post #57

Toutouxc wrote: post #7

Hass is the kind of software that has a lot of rough edges, but you use it anyway because there's very little direct competition. And every release feels like so much stuff has been finally polished, but then you deploy the new version and there's still a lot of stuff that feels or looks weird (the part-bad-UI-part-YAML automation). I have been using it for a couple of years now and I still haven't decided whether I…

The tight integration with ESPHome is what tips the scale to the positive side for me. Quite often I feel frustrated dealing with dozens of lines of YAML in HA's convoluted DSL and wish I could drop to a real programming language. However, for the ESP/embedded devices, it's usually the opposite. ESPHome makes it easy to avoid all the boilerplate and footguns of the C++ libraries for these devices