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Yann LeCun: AI one-percenters seizing power forever is real doomsday scenario

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This would make AI usage restricted to those who can afford a beefy PC, no?

Or it would create an incentive for reducing the cost of the hardware needed to run beefier AI models and passing that reduction down to consumers.

Which would still mean that those who can afford more/better hardware can therefore afford more/better AI. I don't think a solution lies down this path...

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That's the thing with AI. It's so dangerous it could destroy us all. P(doom)=0.3. Anyway, that's why we're working on much large LLMs. It's important that we do this research and expand the size of the LLMs because a larger LLM could destroy us all. Listen, everyone cosplays as doomers here because it's stylish right now. But they're all trying to make this thing they think is suicide. Is this a suicide cult? No. It'…

P(doom)=0.3 according to what? How did you come up with these numbers

Out of my arse, obviously. It's total bullshit.

Re: Yann LeCun: AI one-percenters seizing power forever is real doomsday scenario

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That's the thing with AI. It's so dangerous it could destroy us all. P(doom)=0.3. Anyway, that's why we're working on much large LLMs. It's important that we do this research and expand the size of the LLMs because a larger LLM could destroy us all. Listen, everyone cosplays as doomers here because it's stylish right now. But they're all trying to make this thing they think is suicide. Is this a suicide cult? No. It'…

P(doom)=0.3 according to what? How did you come up with these numbers

The OP I assume picked it because it's a number slightly greater than 0.25 which he read was quoted by AI CTOs on Twitter.

Re: Yann LeCun: AI one-percenters seizing power forever is real doomsday scenario

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't worry about that. I'm sure the military can unplug some computers.

I’m probably getting philosophical here but my personal thought is that - at the end of the day (most if not all) people/anyone/humans like to be on top of “something” rather than to be on top of “everything but nothing meaningful (to anyone else)”. reminds of this one Superman adventures episode with Bizarro (a very uncanny anti-superman) - Superman brought him to an empty desolate place (planet) to prevent him from…

* and also potentially two large markets instead of one

Re: Yann LeCun: AI one-percenters seizing power forever is real doomsday scenario

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some speculators say we'll enter an age of abundance and money wont matter nearly as much (or at all) but if thats the case, how do businesses transition from their current state of profit over everything into money is not important? I see it as much more likely that things become monopolized instead

We have been in a state of abundance for a long time. We just choose not to distribute the abundance.

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Yeah, it is a true risk. What happens when people start making their voting decisions with AI, asking who to vote? Nothing wrong with that per se, but it gives an ultimate power to the company who developed and hosts the AI, which means the end of democracy. My recommendation for regulation would be to make closed & cloud-hosted AI illegal. Architecture, training data and weights should always be available, and peopl…

This would make AI usage restricted to those who can afford a beefy PC, no?

Costs will come down, while capability will go up. I'm thinking of a some kind of box in every home, with special inference chips; not really a "PC".

In principle, every human should have access to the same level of AI. There could be one at the local library if someone can't afford one, or doesn't want one.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or it would create an incentive for reducing the cost of the hardware needed to run beefier AI models and passing that reduction down to consumers.

Which would still mean that those who can afford more/better hardware can therefore afford more/better AI. I don't think a solution lies down this path...

There are already people working on distributed solutions to that problem. There are a lot of people working on these problems.

Re: Yann LeCun: AI one-percenters seizing power forever is real doomsday scenario

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People focus on LLM's and diffusion models because they are so omnipresent now. But an AI for stock picking and prediction that would be realy next level and outcompete the current ones cosistently would siphon of so much wealth it would basically own society if the operators were clever enough not to get so gready short term that the system would litterally collapse overnight.

Re: Yann LeCun: AI one-percenters seizing power forever is real doomsday scenario

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Yeah, it is a true risk. What happens when people start making their voting decisions with AI, asking who to vote? Nothing wrong with that per se, but it gives an ultimate power to the company who developed and hosts the AI, which means the end of democracy. My recommendation for regulation would be to make closed & cloud-hosted AI illegal. Architecture, training data and weights should always be available, and peopl…

There’s a short story by Asimov called “Franchise” which is in hindsight quite foreboding…

Re: Yann LeCun: AI one-percenters seizing power forever is real doomsday scenario

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some speculators say we'll enter an age of abundance and money wont matter nearly as much (or at all) but if thats the case, how do businesses transition from their current state of profit over everything into money is not important? I see it as much more likely that things become monopolized instead

We have been in a state of abundance for a long time. We just choose not to distribute the abundance.

The global average PPP GDP per capita is 18k USD/year. 18k USD/year is not remotely close to abundance.
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