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As the public begins to believe Google isn’t as useful, what happens to SEO?

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Re: As the public begins to believe Google isn’t as useful, what happens to SEO?

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>> Why does it always seem to surprise me, even after all these years, that the way we behave on the internet is often quite different from how we act in real life?

Because you don't actually know the people you interact with on the internet. Anonymity invites deception, which builds a sort of distrust over time whether people realize it or not. Authenticity is rare on the net.

Re: As the public begins to believe Google isn’t as useful, what happens to SEO?

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I think Google still deserves a ton of credit. Online shopping is tricky, but information is incredibly easy to access, especially if you do know how to avoid clicking on Quora or WebMD style sites. Google does a great job of shepherding you towards information and at the very least gives you additional context that you can use to corroborate or tune your search.

Try searching for anything related to a recently released video game. Chat gpt spam has made it completely impossible. Even the reputable wikis are pushed down far enough to become very difficult to find.

This happened with the World of Warcraft subreddit. Any topic someone posted about, a gaming site was having ChatGPT (or whatever) write an article talking about how players were talking about X/Y/Z topic.

Well... the subreddit caught on, and started trolling the shit out of the site by making up fake things "fans were excited about."

https://www.engadget.com/redditors-troll-an-ai-content-farm-...

Re: As the public begins to believe Google isn’t as useful, what happens to SEO?

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The internet was ruined when it was de anonymized by Facebook and LinkedIn etc. I remember growing up in a completely anonymous internet. You could be who you are, say what you want and explore digitally. Then you would go back to society as the real you and temper yourself a bit to fit in and work with others and that was ok because you could blow off steam on the internet.

The Internet is more useful than it ever was for a lot more people. It has more information on more stuff, and you can do a lot more than you ever could, and a lot more people benefit from it in more ways than ever. Is it universally better in every way ? No. Could it be better in many important ways? Yes. But hyperbolic statements like "the Internet was ruined" is just nostalgia and hyperbole.

> The Internet is more useful than it ever was for a lot more people. It has more information on more stuff, and you can do a lot more than you ever could, and a lot more people benefit from it in more ways than ever.

Without proof, that's just as hyperbolic as the post you're criticizing.

Re: As the public begins to believe Google isn’t as useful, what happens to SEO?

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> because obviously HN crowd is much further ahead in the curve Do you actually think this or is this just a polite way of saying lots of HNers are out of touch?

I'm not the OP you replied to, but there's a scene from the movie the big short that really punched the understanding into my head: Michael Burry: I may have been early but I'm not wrong some exec: It's the same thing! I believe that a lot of HN posts are probably "right", but they are so far in the future and so non-applicable to day-to-day life, that it's indistinguishable from wrong. For example, everyone predicti…

You want to be early, just not too early.

For trading, obviously if Michael was 2 days early, that may have not been enough time to arrange the contracts he did. 2 years early means paying premiums while explaining to investors why you are doing this weird thing that everyone else in the world disagrees with.

Re: As the public begins to believe Google isn’t as useful, what happens to SEO?

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I'm old, very educated, very experienced, technical, etc. My assistant is young and none of the above. She finds everything very quickly through internet searches. However-it-is that google is interpreting search terms, that's how her brain works. I told her about a house I drove by that looked like a cool Halloween house. While I was still telling her basics about it, she was already pulling up pictures of it. I had…

Username is fsckboy.

> I'm old, very educated, very experienced, technical, etc.

Checks out.

Re: As the public begins to believe Google isn’t as useful, what happens to SEO?

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The internet was ruined when it was de anonymized by Facebook and LinkedIn etc. I remember growing up in a completely anonymous internet. You could be who you are, say what you want and explore digitally. Then you would go back to society as the real you and temper yourself a bit to fit in and work with others and that was ok because you could blow off steam on the internet.

Sites like this still exist, though some of the more notable examples have heavily deplatforming attempts against them.

The old internet is dead and most people and organizations abhor the idea of anonymity and anonymous (free) speech.

Re: As the public begins to believe Google isn’t as useful, what happens to SEO?

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It's always surprised me that confirmed SEO shenaniganery doesn't bring an instant ion-cannon strike from Google. I know they are apparently allergic to having a human ever decide anything ever. It's just that if I were them, with an infinite data lake to find the vendors' traces, trillion-dollar C-suite morals and the SEO was messing with the bottom line, there would be no quarter when a nest is uncovered. Delist ev…

Isn't this what happened with rap genius around a decade ago[0]? Maybe this was long before their policy of zero human intervention. [0] https://www.theverge.com/2013/12/25/5243716/rap-genius-plumm...

I notice the article says Hacker News first brought it to Google's attention![0]

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6956658

Re: As the public begins to believe Google isn’t as useful, what happens to SEO?

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SEO agency owner here. Have been in the agency game for over 15 years. For whatever it's worth, here are my 2 cents. Business is booming. Not exactly dying as indicated here in the HN circles because obviously HN crowd is much further ahead in the curve. SEO is still the number one opted channel by most ecommerce stores because keywords like "red party dress" or "green shoes" are still immensely more valuable and bri…

The whole thing about Google selling search terms to the highest bidder is exactly why it doesn't work for me as a user. I want the thing I'm looking for in my area with the best quality and best price. Usually the shops that pays the most for the search term are nothing to do with that.

I've stopped using Google altogether for things I want to buy. I only search directly in the shops now.

Re: As the public begins to believe Google isn’t as useful, what happens to SEO?

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Have you tried running an anonymous Facebook account in the past decade? Facebook lets you use it for a few weeks (or months), then suddenly refuses to let you in unless you provide identifying information that it never asked for before , and refuses to give you your data back until you “verify it's you” (might be quoting Google or Microsoft there, but Facebook has similar wording) even though they have no records wi…

I deleted my account only last year and for more than one decade I was using a generated icelandic name.

If your name meets Facebook's “real name” standards, it's not like Facebook is going to hunt down your birth records and see whether it Really Is your Actual Real Name™ (not that that's even a particularly coherent concept…).

Did you manage to keep your account anonymous from Facebook – that is, not linked to any of your other identifiers?

Re: As the public begins to believe Google isn’t as useful, what happens to SEO?

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I'm old, very educated, very experienced, technical, etc. My assistant is young and none of the above. She finds everything very quickly through internet searches. However-it-is that google is interpreting search terms, that's how her brain works. I told her about a house I drove by that looked like a cool Halloween house. While I was still telling her basics about it, she was already pulling up pictures of it. I had…

A lot of HNers are pretty out of touch with how the vast majority of people use the internet.

A lot of HNers are pretty out of touch.
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