Why? Why do people insist on doing this? Move something less important first, prove you can operate in production, then move the crown jewels.
A bank runs serverless with PHP and AWS Lambda
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Re: A bank runs serverless with PHP and AWS Lambda
#102> In October 2021, they successfully migrated their first API route to AWS Lambda, the most critical one handling all live credit card transactions. Over the following year, more and more API endpoints were migrated away from the servers to AWS Lambda. Why? Why do people insist on doing this? Move something less important first, prove you can operate in production, then move the crown jewels.
Re: A bank runs serverless with PHP and AWS Lambda
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
This was my thought. Lambda works well for infrequent tasks. But hosting an API? That seems like it could get expensive pretty fast.
It's cheaper than most options where you need to pay a human to manage something with the same level of scalability and security that AWS provides.
Re: A bank runs serverless with PHP and AWS Lambda
#104> In October 2021, they successfully migrated their first API route to AWS Lambda, the most critical one handling all live credit card transactions. Over the following year, more and more API endpoints were migrated away from the servers to AWS Lambda. Why? Why do people insist on doing this? Move something less important first, prove you can operate in production, then move the crown jewels.
I'd love to hear about the rationale behind this decision, because operational cost certainly isn't it. It's ludicrous to migrate a high-traffic, high-risk API to a function-as-a-service solution like AWS Lambda. Either they have a very unique requirement or it sounds like this might very well be the poster child of clueless resume-driven development.
Re: A bank runs serverless with PHP and AWS Lambda
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's cheaper than most options where you need to pay a human to manage something with the same level of scalability and security that AWS provides.
Lambda scalability for an API is awful; it can't run concurrent requests (of course PHP largely can't do this either). An ECS service with pretty much any other language (for async/multithreaded runtimes) will scale far better.
Re: A bank runs serverless with PHP and AWS Lambda
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
This was my thought. Lambda works well for infrequent tasks. But hosting an API? That seems like it could get expensive pretty fast.
Lambda is $0.0000166667 for every GB-second, which works out to ~$43.20 for 30 days. For a little more ($49/month), you could get a c6g.large and get two dedicated CPU cores (ie, not the shared burstable t2/t3) and 4 GB of RAM. So yes, very expensive fast if you get much traffic at all. That c6g.large should easily be able to handle dozens (if not hundreds) of requests in parallel, especially if many of those request…
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Re: A bank runs serverless with PHP and AWS Lambda
#107> In October 2021, they successfully migrated their first API route to AWS Lambda, the most critical one handling all live credit card transactions. Over the following year, more and more API endpoints were migrated away from the servers to AWS Lambda. Why? Why do people insist on doing this? Move something less important first, prove you can operate in production, then move the crown jewels.
I'd love to hear about the rationale behind this decision, because operational cost certainly isn't it. It's ludicrous to migrate a high-traffic, high-risk API to a function-as-a-service solution like AWS Lambda. Either they have a very unique requirement or it sounds like this might very well be the poster child of clueless resume-driven development.
Re: A bank runs serverless with PHP and AWS Lambda
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lambda is $0.0000166667 for every GB-second, which works out to ~$43.20 for 30 days. For a little more ($49/month), you could get a c6g.large and get two dedicated CPU cores (ie, not the shared burstable t2/t3) and 4 GB of RAM. So yes, very expensive fast if you get much traffic at all. That c6g.large should easily be able to handle dozens (if not hundreds) of requests in parallel, especially if many of those request…
Then your EC2 instance suddenly stops working and your downtime cost you a fat contract that makes the cost of serverless a pocket change. If you want to compare AWS Lambda with EC2, you need to bring in AWS Load Balancer, Auto Scaling, Security Upgrades for the OS, Healthcheck and many more. Yes, Lambda is not needed in a lot of context, but if you have the expertise to use it and you want to provide enterprise-grad…
Re: A bank runs serverless with PHP and AWS Lambda
#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lambda scalability for an API is awful; it can't run concurrent requests (of course PHP largely can't do this either). An ECS service with pretty much any other language (for async/multithreaded runtimes) will scale far better.
A single lambda can only handle one request at a time, but you can scale up 1,000s of instances if needed.
1000 lambdas with 1000 database connections is also going to be a horrible way to do things on the backend. Add in the cost of RDS proxy for lambda and the ECS solution becomes even better.
Re: A bank runs serverless with PHP and AWS Lambda
#110Treezor is not really directly a bank but more a "bank as a service" company. Lots of companies or "neobank" that want to offer a kind of bank account, for personal or corporate use, but that don't have an official banking agreement, and not really a banking infrastructure, can use them as "white label" solutions. All the bank accounts and banking operations will be done by treezor, but from the user point of view, h…