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Re: Dot by New Computer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They say in their about page: "We will never monetize your data. We will never monetize your attention. And we believe that the only way we can build towards the future we envision is through the continuous reinforcement of mutual trust and respect. Currently, we leverage best-in-class cloud-hosted models, including ones from OpenAI, Anthropic, and a selection of open-source options. Over time, we plan to reduce exte…

And what reason does anyone have to put any faith in that? And their service providers (OpenAI, etc.) may not be on the same page as them.

I'm not saying I would put any faith in it. The company could start genuinely believing those values but the values of a company change over time with more people investing.

Re: Dot by New Computer

#43

Interesting. I just signed up for the waitlist. It seems similar to Pi ( https://pi.ai ) in terms of audience and general use case though.

The UX was quite different as it seemed the ambition. Pi.ai just seems like a fine tuned chatgpt that’s aimed at being “supportive,” no?

Like ChatGPT, sure, but Pi uses internally developed, novel language models, not OpenAI's.

Re: Dot by New Computer

#45

Their privacy policy lists OpenAI as one of their partners for data processing, which indicates that this is happening not on your device, and data is also shared with third parties. For me this is the main counterargument against apps like these. I want to feel free to post any information into this without thinking about who may read or use it. Local is the only way to go for software like this in my opinion.

They say in their about page: "We will never monetize your data. We will never monetize your attention. And we believe that the only way we can build towards the future we envision is through the continuous reinforcement of mutual trust and respect. Currently, we leverage best-in-class cloud-hosted models, including ones from OpenAI, Anthropic, and a selection of open-source options. Over time, we plan to reduce exte…

How do they intend to make money?

Re: Dot by New Computer

#46

> Dot remembers Mei’s interest in singing and proactively sends her suggestions for music clubs at school. Imagine having so little agency and motivation within your own existence on this earth that you need an app to remind of what you once found life—affirming.

That's not what that says though, it's not reminding them of loving singing, it's finding clubs. It's a proactive search.

It'd be like a friend saying "oh hey I know you like singing, I spotted these clubs you might like".

Re: Dot by New Computer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Recipes cannot be copyrighted.

Can they be patented though? I was having this thought the other day and didn’t really check. I guess not, but it’s kind of ironic as a patent is basically a recipe.

Not typically. The mere combination of known ingredients does not result in a new and non-obvious invention that can be patented. A patent typically covers a unique or non-obvious process. There are exceptions, say, if there is a process that results in a foodstuff having a longer shelf life, or a novel way of reproducing a flavor (but not the recipe of the flavoring, per se). Cooking something with heat is not a unique or non-obvious process.

You could copyright the exact wording but that wouldn't protect the recipe itself and simply substituting a measurement unit may be enough to get around that. You could make it a trade secret but since the onus is on the owner to protect it and keep it confidential, that probably doesn't include publishing it or even sharing it with your AI assistant. Might involve courtside arguments about "reasonable expectations of privacy" .. I wouldn't want to test it.

It's not like there's specific wording saying that recipes cannot be patented, but if you can describe it in the traditional ingredients + preparation steps then it does not meet patentable criteria.

Re: Dot by New Computer

#48

This is the most likely-to-be-Sherlocked[1] thing I've seen in a while. And when Apple does it, the processing will be done on-device. [1] https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sherlocked

I remember Sherlock...

Looks like Apple already has already been working on it with their Journal App (in Beta now). [0]

[0] https://beebom.com/journal-app-iphone/

Re: Dot by New Computer

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“Eventually, Mei decides she’s had enough of Dot interfering in every aspect of her life, uninstalls Dot, and goes about her business as usual, determined to interact with reality in a more wholehearted way.”

see: Jexi https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9354944/

Her 2013

"Do you mind if I look through your hard drive?"

"Umm... okay"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV01B5kVsC0 (3:35)

I do like this part a lot, as a loner guy but I cannot trust something I didn't make (tinfoil hat guy digs silica by hand)

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