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FCC launches inquiry to increase minimum broadband speed [pdf]

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Re: FCC launches inquiry to increase minimum broadband speed [pdf]

#22

This is nice, but with increased speed, they should also require ISPs do not impose a data cap to be considered broadband.

Why shouldn’t there be a cap? Bandwidth isn’t free. It’s sad seeing people on a forum called hacker news having no idea how networking infrastructure works.

Bits that go unused have no value. Caps on numbers of bits in a billing cycle don't make sense. While it isn't exactly pure artificial scarcity, it's darn close. A retail ISP already has to have some fair share mechanisms for peak use times. That leaves very very little usefulness in monthly caps.

Re: FCC launches inquiry to increase minimum broadband speed [pdf]

#23
Waht the government needs to do (but never will) is make the last mile a municipal utility such as in Chattanooga [1].

Instead we have monopolies that do what all monopolies do in a capitalist organization of the economy: they rent-seek, spend their time and money on lobbying to legislatively exclude competition (eg [2]), do the bare minimum and take public money to roll out broadband but then just not do it (eg [3].

The Internet is the US is objectively awful for most people by the standard of other developed economies [4].

It's ridiculous that people still defend this system.

[1]: https://qz.com/1996234/the-best-broadband-in-the-us-is-in-ch...

[2]: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/isp-lobby-has-al...

[3]: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/06/veriz...

[4]: https://broadbandnow.com/report/2018-fcc-international-data-...

Re: FCC launches inquiry to increase minimum broadband speed [pdf]

#24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Source? Running things requires labor, labor is getting expensive. Pricing isn’t set on simply the marginal cost of materials…

Running a fully utilized fiber line is.. exactly the same amount of labor as running a 10% utilized one. The cost to track and bill people for caps and let them pay overages though..

Chokepoints are peering exchanges, transit handoffs, and core network gear, which is sized for a percentile of utilization below constant 100%. Having implemented a billing system and utilization monitoring for managed hosting datacenter environment, it is trivial to collect metrics from equipment and bill accordingly. You don't want to nickle and dime or gouge customers, but you do want to ensure proportionality across the customer population.

Some combination of caps, overage charges, traffic shaping, and edge CDN appliances is needed (Netflix, Akamai, etc). Off peak unlimited is also a potential strategy to drive low priority transfer to low utilization periods. Pick your poison. There is a reason most of Netflix global infra is monster CDN boxes closest to customers.

https://openconnect.netflix.com/en/

Re: FCC launches inquiry to increase minimum broadband speed [pdf]

#27
Will they also change how they define a region? At one point, I thought so long as an ISP service a single customer in a zip code(?), census tract(?), some region definition, the ISP could make claims to offering that tier of service everywhere.

Re: FCC launches inquiry to increase minimum broadband speed [pdf]

#28

This is nice, but with increased speed, they should also require ISPs do not impose a data cap to be considered broadband.

And that speed should be symmetrical. We are continuing to push the boundaries are content going out.

Re: FCC launches inquiry to increase minimum broadband speed [pdf]

#30

Download only, yes? And what about the busy-Sunday night problem? This seems so besides the point. Cable at an apartment building I visit is often 300mbps, but Sunday evening it can have horrible jitter and lag and much slower speeds. It's incredibly frustrating; common sites can be basically unusable. This also feels like it's setting a bar where most DSL systems wont have any chance of competing. In cities I can be…

I usually pay for 50mbps, but I can live comfortably on 25mbps if need be (sometimes I drop my connection speed to save money). However, I have a fibre connection, where QoS is 100% 100% of the time. 25mbps is totally fine for web browsing, gaming, and streaming. The only issue is downloads, which simply take more time. I'd still rather have a rock solid 25mbps than 300mbps with jitter. Cable is garbage. Always has been, always will be.
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