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A lot of dogs also like to bite people, or scare birds, or scare other dogs…. Just because something likes to do something does not mean we should let it do it.
A few dogs are so aggressive that they bite people. Usually the owner is the problem.
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If they feel threatened by dogs off leashes, that's them, let them live. It seems perfectly reasonable for such a person to go someplace where dogs must be on leashes.
I'm not saying they shouldn't live, I'm saying that if off-leash dogs scare you and you don't want to be scared, you shouldn't be outside. Even if every last dog owner kept their dog on a leash at all times, there would still be some dogs without a leash, and all of them would be outside your house. I assume any person would understand that by the time they reach adulthood and either learn to deal with the fact that…
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They're not sociopaths. A lot of them are just very risk intolerant. Sociopaths tend to leverage or create a problem for their own gain, as opposed to just failing to help. Sure, if you see someone chuckling with glee while passively observing a dumpster fire, they might be a sociopath, but a lot of people are just scared or incapable of making decisions under pressure.
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One wonders if you also rail at the authoritarian nature of stoplights. At that on one particular 4-way with that one particular car with that one particular driver, they successfully ran a red light without causing an accident, therefore, we should all just ignore stop lights because they're an authoritarian construct designed to cow us into submission. Or perhaps it's those authoritarian posters telling young peopl…
Bureaucracy is stopping at a red light late at night when no one is coming.
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Sure, conventions that create shelling points to enable coordination on roads are the same as preventing dogs from running around in parks -- the things dogs want to do by nature, in the nature-based parts of cities. Perhaps it's my inclination against speciesism, and my seeing people much closer to dogs than not -- but I think the regulation of the behaviour of animals, against their natures, is a moral matter. A co…
what I'm hearing you say is that you believe young people should be engaged in unprotected sex. That has life-changing consequences, and yet here you are waxing on about the morality of placing a leash on a dog. Are you sure the issue isn't that you dislike people?
Imagine for a moment a person like you, with your impulse to constrain and regulate, was in charge of you
Imagine they did not agree with how you should live your life
What then, would you say to them?
For any issue they wil have their data about marginal changes to safety
You want to do X? why, 0.y% of times X happens, bad things happen!
this is a universal feature of life, and so any idiot can appeal to it
now what do you say to this overbearing regulator of your enjoyment? this person who denies you what you wish to do?
i cannot imagine you are so naive to suppose that what you enjoy is unimpeachably safe
i don't think you have anything to say
rather i read this line of thinking as just moral hypocrisy: you allow yourself to enjoy whatever it is you enjoy, despite these marginal risks -- but when you get no enjoyment from it --- Ah! well then it can be banned
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Ok, let's say your dog is well behaved. I think we can agree that lots of other people who think that their dog is well behaved actually have a dog that is potentially dangerous. How am I supposed to know by looking at you and your dog which it is? So now I get to feel in danger so that you can feel slightly more at home. How does that make sense? This is an excellent example of 'ridiculous government overreach' that…
If just seeing a dog without a leash is enough for you to feel in danger you probably shouldn't leave your home, let alone go to the park. That aside, you don't have a right to not feel in danger. You don't even have a right to not be in danger, though you do have a right to not be put in danger deliberately or by negligence.
If not, I'd be careful with how loudly you proclaim ignorant opinions without consideration for people who might have a wider experience than you. Wisdom is knowing when to shut up and listen, sometimes.