A sly comment I saw elsewhere was this gives them a nice bump they can use when the M4 is released and they go back to 4x4 Edit: my personal feeling is this is just a cost savings they are doing like they did with the base SSDs
Probably not because they will compare the M4 to the M2 (because M3 owners are less likely to upgrade).
Apple M3 Pro Chip Has 25% Less Memory Bandwidth Than M1/M2 Pro
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#14A sly comment I saw elsewhere was this gives them a nice bump they can use when the M4 is released and they go back to 4x4 Edit: my personal feeling is this is just a cost savings they are doing like they did with the base SSDs
Probably not because they will compare the M4 to the M2 (because M3 owners are less likely to upgrade).
We already had people in another HN discussion asking why on earth would owners of M2 MacBook Pros not mindlessly upgrade to M3 ones, as if not getting on that upgrade treadmill required any sort of justification.
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#15A sly comment I saw elsewhere was this gives them a nice bump they can use when the M4 is released and they go back to 4x4 Edit: my personal feeling is this is just a cost savings they are doing like they did with the base SSDs
I have a hard time feeling I was the only one conspiratorial enough to suggest something like that.
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#16A sly comment I saw elsewhere was this gives them a nice bump they can use when the M4 is released and they go back to 4x4 Edit: my personal feeling is this is just a cost savings they are doing like they did with the base SSDs
I was downvoted to oblivion for suggesting that was the reason the last couple of years of intel MacBooks had botched thermal solutions. They were really indefensibly bad, but then again: the jump to m1 was enormous. I have a hard time feeling I was the only one conspiratorial enough to suggest something like that.
I believe you.
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#17A sly comment I saw elsewhere was this gives them a nice bump they can use when the M4 is released and they go back to 4x4 Edit: my personal feeling is this is just a cost savings they are doing like they did with the base SSDs
I was downvoted to oblivion for suggesting that was the reason the last couple of years of intel MacBooks had botched thermal solutions. They were really indefensibly bad, but then again: the jump to m1 was enormous. I have a hard time feeling I was the only one conspiratorial enough to suggest something like that.
No, I don't see how that's more than a conspiracy theory.
I am using an M2 Air right now and it has 2-3x better performance than my older i7 Thinkpad while being completely silent and running 3x longer on battery. Apple didn't have the need to pull any tricks.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was downvoted to oblivion for suggesting that was the reason the last couple of years of intel MacBooks had botched thermal solutions. They were really indefensibly bad, but then again: the jump to m1 was enormous. I have a hard time feeling I was the only one conspiratorial enough to suggest something like that.
Knowing how much apple exploits its users a d knowing how apple fanatics are willing to buy whatever and in retrospect… it makes perfect sense. I believe you.
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From someone who was briefed by Apple [1], this is Apple segmenting these processors. The M1 Pro and the M2 Pro were closer to their respective Max variants. With the M3 series, the M3 Pro is more of a mainstream processor vs. being closer to the M3 Max. [1]: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/upgrade/id918152703?i=...
What’s strange about this strategy is it’s less cost effective because Apple is now designing a completely different Pro & Max chiplet, as opposed to just scaling up the base chiplet as done in the M1 & M2. This is a lot of extra complexity they are inflicting on themselves if accurate.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
From someone who was briefed by Apple [1], this is Apple segmenting these processors. The M1 Pro and the M2 Pro were closer to their respective Max variants. With the M3 series, the M3 Pro is more of a mainstream processor vs. being closer to the M3 Max. [1]: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/upgrade/id918152703?i=...
What’s strange about this strategy is it’s less cost effective because Apple is now designing a completely different Pro & Max chiplet, as opposed to just scaling up the base chiplet as done in the M1 & M2. This is a lot of extra complexity they are inflicting on themselves if accurate.
That may be true for the M3, but they undoubtedly are already working on the M4 and M5; they may have bigger differences planned for future releases that require the Pro and Max designs to be separate. Could be that they are just doing the initial work to split the design into two branches for M3 so they can make more changes from M4 onwards.