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Re: macOS Sonoma Boot Failures

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Post by frankjr »

> Do not let them charge you any money for it. This is a problem Apple caused, and purely a software issue. If the technicians claim there is hardware damage, they are wrong.

Good luck with that.

Re: macOS Sonoma Boot Failures

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Post by hbn »

racl101 wrote: post #4

I am so terrified of this upgrade that I think I'll wait a whole year. That's not a good thing.

I pretty much always wait 6 months or so for Mac upgrades on whatever machine is important to me. There seems to pretty consistently be regular bugfix updates for the few months following a release.

Re: macOS Sonoma Boot Failures

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Post by bscphil »

mattchamb wrote: post #7

Not sure if related, but my 2020 M1 macbook air bricked a week or so after upgrading to Sonoma. I was suspicious if this was related to the update. Luckily the logic board was replaced for free under warranty laws here, though it put me off switching to iphone which I was a day away from doing.

Upgrades bricking hardware seems to be a common failure mode for macOS. For example Big Sur bricked a bunch of 2013 and 2014 MBPs: https://www.macrumors.com/2020/11/15/macos-big-sur-update-br...

I was affected by this and like many users the problem was fixed after replacing the I/O board. In my case, I did it myself using a $10 part from Ebay since the machine was well out of warranty at that point.

Re: macOS Sonoma Boot Failures

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Post by asylteltine »

I’m an apple fanboy and let me be the first to say their SDLC since the pandemic has been AWFUL. I have never had so many bugs with apple devices. And I’m not talking about giant catastrophic bugs you would expect with windows or Linux. I mean little things, like random phone reboots, overheating, my mac restarting when I wake up from sleep, internet issues, etc. They need a shake up and to stop focusing on all these features NO ONE uses. Can one person tell me they use the features they just announced? Nobody even knows you can edit an iMessage still.

Re: macOS Sonoma Boot Failures

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Post by vbezhenar »

Today I had to DFU restore my macbook because I wanted to reinstall it, but built-in restore over the web did not work. My base system was 13.2, it downloads all the files for 13.6, it filled bar to 100% and then spewed error.

It's obvious that it's some incompatibility between 13.2 base system and 13.6 install. Apple quality is atrocious these days. One would have thought they would test the most basic scenarios before releasing their x.6 software.

And worse of all, there's no official (or even unofficial, at least I wasn't able to find one) way to create USB boot installer without another Mac or to DFU restore Mac without another Mac. Do they think I live in Apple Store? I don't have other Mac. I was able to DFU restore with libimobiledevice, god bless its creator, but it really should not happen. Windows or Linux are so much more transparent compared to macOS.

Re: macOS Sonoma Boot Failures

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Post by alberth »

Abstraction Layers.

We've gotten to point with the huge number of abstraction layers (and now AI as well) that troubleshooting what causes system to do what it did, has become so unwieldily difficult to diagnosis.

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