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AV1 video codec gains broader hardware support

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Re: AV1 video codec gains broader hardware support

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This can be treated as a rumor but I heard a Microsoft developer on Mastodon hint that they had been having trouble with a patent troll, so maybe that's the reason behind the kind of obnoxious workaround too. But that they were dealing with it.

AV1 was supposed to be the patent and royalty free contender?

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Re: AV1 video codec gains broader hardware support

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What was the situation on its efficiency compared to H.265 and similar?

Depends on the encoder, this website provides easy-to-visualize data sets for various encoders at various settings https://arewecompressedyet.com/ AV1 encoders tend to have better VMAF score at a given bits-per-pixel.

Re: AV1 video codec gains broader hardware support

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If anyone is wonder about the Microsoft Edge situation feel free to investigate the "licensing issue" referenced in this StackOverflow thread:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/75459594/why-doesnt-edge...

Although the thread is about AVIF (the image format based on AV1) I bet the same licensing issues are also holding back AV1 on edge.

Re: AV1 video codec gains broader hardware support

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I love AV1 for compressing my movies to 720p. I also convert any audio to Opus. I get to archive a ton of content on peanuts. The videos look great on my PC monitor or my phone and they come in at around 452MB (1hr 24m video). Here's my script if you're interested in trying it out on your content. param ( [Parameter(Mandatory=$true)] [string]$sourceDir, [string]$destDir = $sourceDir ) $ffmpegPath = 'C:\Users\sergi\Do…

I don't recognize that language. Is it PHP?

Re: AV1 video codec gains broader hardware support

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post #125

I love AV1 for compressing my movies to 720p. I also convert any audio to Opus. I get to archive a ton of content on peanuts. The videos look great on my PC monitor or my phone and they come in at around 452MB (1hr 24m video). Here's my script if you're interested in trying it out on your content. param ( [Parameter(Mandatory=$true)] [string]$sourceDir, [string]$destDir = $sourceDir ) $ffmpegPath = 'C:\Users\sergi\Do…

I don't recognize that language. Is it PHP?

It's Powershell. It's Windows' Bash equivalent (admittedly much more advanced) but it's been open-sourced and ported to Linux as well.

Re: AV1 video codec gains broader hardware support

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post #54
post #34

Is AV1 better than HEVC? Or is it about the same, just freely licensed?

HEVC is great for giving you quality in a smaller file size, for your local video files (due to being supported by more cameras and phones so far). AV1 has wider support for streaming video online at a higher quality (due to more browser support so far). So, at the moment, they are really best in two different use cases (subject to change, of course).

> HEVC is great for giving you quality in a smaller file size, for your local video files.

This is a huge plus in fansub anime scene. 10 years ago, majority of anime are in H264 (720p/1080p 8bit) which is normally 1±GB for each episode that are consist of 25 min. If I want to watch one anime, it will consume about 20 GB of space. Now, majority of them are in HEVC (1080p 10bit) which are about 300± MB for each episode.

Re: AV1 video codec gains broader hardware support

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That looks like a pure marketing slide to me. I don't think it would make sense to actually have separate dedicated silicon for these.

It is a pure marketing slide. The M3 variants floorplans don't look anything like that, as can be seen on other pictures of the dies. That being said, it's pretty common to have dedicated silicon for video codecs. It normally takes the form of a little DSP with custom instructions to accelerate operations specific to the codec.

Yes exactly. But are you going to have a different DSP for each codec? Doubtful.

Re: AV1 video codec gains broader hardware support

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That looks like a pure marketing slide to me. I don't think it would make sense to actually have separate dedicated silicon for these.

How would you do it in hardware otherwise?

With a DSP that has generic instructions that are especially useful for video codecs.

Re: AV1 video codec gains broader hardware support

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post #5

Perhaps this might seem like a basic question, but why has it taken so long for processors to support AV1, given that it has been out for years?

Keep in mind that standards are moving slow, CODEC standards more so. The golden standard is still h264/AVC, which dates back to the nineties. This is primarily due to many appliances (set top boxes, cameras, phones, TVs) using the absolute cheapest hardware stack they can get their hands on.

AVC is from 2004-ish, but CPUs weren't good enough to play it in realtime for a few more years.
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