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Re: .io considered harmful

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I would go further and say this: Never treat foreign ccTLD’s (two-letter domains) as anything you can just register and use a domain in. You should only ever use a ccTLD of your own country or region you actually have your main presence in. Your domain name is often your most secure key to your entire online identity, and you want that to be on as a secure legal footing as possible. Older discussion here: https://new…

> Your domain name is often your most secure key to your entire online identity, and you want that to be on as a secure legal footing as possible.

No, it absolutely isn't. Domain names are rented from a TLD registrar, someone who literally just controls a bunch of DNS servers and some automated systems that's approved by and has paid ICANN. They can reject your renewal for any reason and there's nothing you can do about it from an ICANN or court perspective. Worse, what walks in domains is money, which is why registrars can sell "premium" domains that aren't owned for exorbitant prices.

Ordering from your own country maybe ups the ante from a civil court perspective if you have money to sue a registrar and the time to go to court for it.

Re: .io considered harmful

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The article is clearly a virtue signal. If the person developing the solution doesnt want to pay for the .io domain, then so be it. They don't have to get the morality into it.

exactly, the 'about' page, is all I needed to see

I looked at the about page because of your comment, and wow you were right. I've rarely seen such a concentrated collection of "I'm a good person who believes good things" self-pats on the back. Really cringe.

Re: .io considered harmful

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> For my part, I'm working on migrating all my email from @cariad.io to @cariad.earth. It's a pain, but it's worth it.

I use a .io domain for my personal email as well. I did not reach the same conclusion though.

Hyperbolic pieces like this make me want to double down even further on whatever it is they are so against.

Re: .io considered harmful

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I know this is good advice, but I simply value vanity TLDs too much to ever stop. I've got all of my projects' domains on absurd gTLDs and I'd never have it any other way. My users enjoy it and so do I.

One thing to consider is to have your publicly-visible web sites on vanity domain/domains, but all your server infrastructure on a domain in your local stable ccTLD.

I recall a HN post within the past few years of an issue with a particular TLD (I think it may have been .io) that resulted in an outage and the conclusion was exactly this. Use whatever nice-looking domain you want for marketing, but stick with something stable for infrastructure.

Re: .io considered harmful

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post #52
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I would go further and say this: Never treat foreign ccTLD’s (two-letter domains) as anything you can just register and use a domain in. You should only ever use a ccTLD of your own country or region you actually have your main presence in. Your domain name is often your most secure key to your entire online identity, and you want that to be on as a secure legal footing as possible. Older discussion here: https://new…

> Your domain name is often your most secure key to your entire online identity, and you want that to be on as a secure legal footing as possible. No, it absolutely isn't. Domain names are rented from a TLD registrar, someone who literally just controls a bunch of DNS servers and some automated systems that's approved by and has paid ICANN. They can reject your renewal for any reason and there's nothing you can do ab…

You really don't know what you're talking about.

First, you've confused registrars and registries - registrars don't operate DNS servers for TLDs; registries do. This isn't a pedantic point; understanding the distinction is absolutely key for understanding how domain registrations work.

Second, registries (for gTLDs) have agreements with ICANN that provide legal protections for domain registrants - including protections against denying renewals or jacking up renewal pricing. You can see the agreements here: https://www.icann.org/en/registry-agreements

This is not the case with ccTLDs; each ccTLD registry can operate as arbitrarily and capriciously as they want, which is why teddyh's advice to avoid foreign ccTLDs is quite sound.

Re: .io considered harmful

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Are you a citizen of Montenegro? If you are, feel free to use it! Otherwise, I suggest that you use something else.

Hello, I am an official representarive of the Balkan countries. A non-negligable chunk of our GDP is based on random Rust projects using Serbia's .rs and of course .me. If you stop using our TLDs our ecobomies will collapse. Kind regards, The Balkans

Serbians should really let go of the idea they can speak for all Balkan nations.

-- Sincerely, Everyone Else

Re: .io considered harmful

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Virtue signaling is the expression of a conspicuous, self-righteous moral viewpoint with the intent of communicating good character. It doesn't actually have to be virtuous, it only needs to signal virtue to others. Virtue signalling usually does not genuinely solve anything anyway it's merely supposed to impress upon you that "this person is good", that's the entire goal. Whether it's meaningful or not doesn't enter…

A prime example: "Acknowledging that you're on Comanche (or whoever) land". This "acknowledgment" never seems to involve paying any rent to the Comanche for being on "their land", nor doing anything else that actually benefits the Comanche. Taking the 15 seconds to add this to your social media profile means you can signal to everyone what a Good Person you are without ever having to actually do anything.

I like your example. The Comanche were imperialists that almost exterminated the Apache....Raided a thousand miles into Mexico and into Tropical environments. Killed everything in sight. Wiped out thousands of naive white settlers. And when they killed it wasn't quick. Many accounts of them skinning people alive (some children). US was only able to get a handle on the Comanche by killing off their food supply, and that was deep into the 1870's. After they surrendered the war chief (who was psychotic) became a successful rancher and would go on hunts with US presidents. Which just goes to show how small the line between full blown raider and adjusted law abiding member of society is. And maybe that's why people feel the need to virtue signal. subconscious hedge.

Re: .io considered harmful

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I would go further and say this: Never treat foreign ccTLD’s (two-letter domains) as anything you can just register and use a domain in. You should only ever use a ccTLD of your own country or region you actually have your main presence in. Your domain name is often your most secure key to your entire online identity, and you want that to be on as a secure legal footing as possible. Older discussion here: https://new…

I know this is good advice, but I simply value vanity TLDs too much to ever stop. I've got all of my projects' domains on absurd gTLDs and I'd never have it any other way. My users enjoy it and so do I.

Newer / weird gTLDs are not as problematic as ccTLDs in unstable jurisdictions, by any means.

If they really are gTLDs, I wouldn't worry.

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