Gmail, Yahoo announce new 2024 authentication requirements for bulk senders

Post by mnd999 » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 6:49 AM UTC

albertgoeswoof wrote: post #26

This might be good news, but as it comes from Google and involves email centralisation, I’m sceptical. At MailPace we already enforce DKIM, it’s pretty basic stuff. But list-unsubscribe is optional for our senders. We can make this a requirement and manage lists for senders who don’t / can’t implement a webhook to handle it (we already default to blocking resends to emails that hard bounce). However I am curious how…

Post by Loocid » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 6:58 AM UTC

tornato7 wrote: post #59

teruakohatu wrote: post #3

Most of the spam I get in gmail apparently comes from other gmail accounts. Presumably google already filtered out senders pretending to be gmail, so I am not sure what a big improvement this will be for the average user.

I receive a lot of scam emails from Google Docs - ie random users 'sharing' Google Docs with me that are either ads or viruses or both.

Post by oynqr » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 7:03 AM UTC

stevage wrote: post #198

georgyo wrote: post #181

Reading all the comments makes me think I'm an outlier. I very aggressively unsubscribe from everything so I get very little mailing list spam. Maybe a few messages a month. What I do get _constantly_ is spam email messages to my inbox from Gmail and Outlook domains. At least one a day for many years. Because it from Gmail, they have very little spam filtering done, yet if any other provider sent these messages then…

Yep, I'm the opposite of you. I get almost zero true "spam" to my Gmail account. Maybe 1-2 messages a month. Whereas quite a few of these quasi-spam marketing emails from a company that I once had some interaction with. The worst is hotels - you stay at 10 hotels during the course of a trip, then you get added to 10 email lists for the rest of your life.

Post by pests » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 7:13 AM UTC

a_wild_dandan wrote: post #297

appplication wrote: post #285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes I ran into this the other day when I tried Nextdoor out for the first time. I was actually so in awe of the insane and sociopathic dark pattern that is their email/notification subscription system that I immediately deleted the app. I don’t want to be a user on a platform that treats its users with so little respect.

I did the exact same thing a few days ago. I thought NextDoor would be social media that connects me with my local community. Nope. It’s overwhelmingly “recommend me someone for ”, camera footage of shady people or crime reports, and complaints about neighbors. The excessive emails were the final straw that took me from indifference to actively excising NextDoor from my phone. So if anyone has ideas for connecting wi…

Post by vintermann » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 7:16 AM UTC

pests wrote: post #243

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #155

> we’ll enforce a clear spam rate threshold that senders must stay under I hope they make it really strict. I'm sick of companies that send you spam ("newsletters") just because you interacted with them once, then when you unsubscribe, you get unsubscribed from that one list, so they keep spamming you just with a slightly different newsletter type. (Edit: Also, everything requiring a notification - by e-mail if they…

NextDoor is the absolute fucking worst with this. They sign you up to 10+ lists each in over 9+ categories that results in what feels like 100 different "notification types". Unsubscribing from an email just unsubscribes from that one list. They don't show any other lists or categories (or imply there are more) during this process. Once you login you are greeted with a multi-page disaster to manually untoggle each of…