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People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds

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Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds

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Post by Obscurity4340 »

wkat4242 wrote: post #140
nathan_compton wrote: post #116

I have mild autism (not entirely politically correct to describe it that way) without intellectual impairments and I frankly see normal people as disabled.

I know what you mean. I remember one time I got off the plane in Italy and I was walking with my girlfriend to customs. At one point we branched off from all the other passengers and she was like "hey we're going the wrong way, everyone is heading there". And I said nope this is the EU passengers exit, look at the sign. She couldn't believe it was right because the plane was full of others from our EU country. All th…

Are there connections between ADHD autism in your view? I feel like if I had my wits about me, i woulda made the same choice

Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds

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Post by taneq »

wkat4242 wrote: post #140
nathan_compton wrote: post #116

I have mild autism (not entirely politically correct to describe it that way) without intellectual impairments and I frankly see normal people as disabled.

I know what you mean. I remember one time I got off the plane in Italy and I was walking with my girlfriend to customs. At one point we branched off from all the other passengers and she was like "hey we're going the wrong way, everyone is heading there". And I said nope this is the EU passengers exit, look at the sign. She couldn't believe it was right because the plane was full of others from our EU country. All th…

Reminds me of one time when we had a power outage in the central train station, there was a long queue of people lined up at the (stationary) escalator while the stairs next to it were empty. I just shrugged and went up the stairs, but I do wonder what all those people were thinking.

Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds

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Post by taneq »

Obscurity4340 wrote: post #181
wkat4242 wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know what you mean. I remember one time I got off the plane in Italy and I was walking with my girlfriend to customs. At one point we branched off from all the other passengers and she was like "hey we're going the wrong way, everyone is heading there". And I said nope this is the EU passengers exit, look at the sign. She couldn't believe it was right because the plane was full of others from our EU country. All th…

Are there connections between ADHD autism in your view? I feel like if I had my wits about me, i woulda made the same choice

They're highly comorbid with a lot of common traits.

Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds

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Post by grotted »

atleastoptimal wrote: post #179
nathan_compton wrote: post #116

I have mild autism (not entirely politically correct to describe it that way) without intellectual impairments and I frankly see normal people as disabled.

Frankly that superiority complex may be why neurodivergent people with similar ideas about "normal" people have issues getting along with others, no offense.

What you call a "superiority complex" is the exact attitude neurodivergent people face constantly

Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds

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Post by Obscurity4340 »

wkat4242 wrote: post #155
Podgajski wrote: post #10

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Hi, I posted this study because I have Asperger’s and this is what was always said about my behavior. Yesterday I literally had to stop myself from sending photographs to the police of a guy walking his dog off leash in a park that has signs forbidding it. And my reason for wanting to call the police is because of my compassion for the dog or for anyone the dog to hurt. Not so much that it was only that the man was d…

People like us do tend to have a deep sense of fairness and caring yes. I see it too. I don't read other people's feelings so well. But I still care a hell of a lot how I make them feel. At least the ones I care about which is the default for people I meet. Though once someone is a dick to me they can die in a fire and I wouldn't help them, there is that side too which is not as pretty. However most people respond wi…

Are there highly social aspd peeps? I wonder sometimes

Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds

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Post by Obscurity4340 »

taneq wrote: post #183
Obscurity4340 wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there connections between ADHD autism in your view? I feel like if I had my wits about me, i woulda made the same choice

They're highly comorbid with a lot of common traits.

I just wonder if sociality and ease of establishing and maintaining rapport is contraindicative of ASPD/autism stuff or whether it really is not only just a spectrum in the sense of a spectrum of impairment but also on a continuum from ASPD/autism "Normal" where impairment can still exist as a sort of sub-spectrum without wholly subjugating me to that subclassification where i could otherwise ddmobstrate skills and traits to the contrary

Insofar as a a spectrum of impairment is referring to a spectrum of diificulty in socializing and a deficiency of adeptness at neurotypical theory of mind

Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds

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Post by lucubratory »

aeyes wrote: post #157
omginternets wrote: post #124

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I've often remarked (informally) that autistic people seem to operate under the assumption that the explicitly-stated rules are the actual rules. "Help others in need" would be the go-to example of how this confusion(?) can lead to a positive outcome.

As a person on the spectrum "help others in need" is actually a very difficult concept because I don't really care about them. When something happens around me where I'm not directly involved my instinct is to ignore it or to get out of the situation so that I can go on with my life. The only difference is when I see unfairness or injustice, then I feel like I have to do something about it. But it usually isn't about…

I am autistic as well and what you are saying makes no sense to me. When someone is in need around me and requires help, by definition they need help and are not currently receiving it, which is an injustice and unfair. Therefore I have to remedy the injustice, therefore I have to help. That is how I experience the autistic sense of justice. How are you reconciling that contradiction?

Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds

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Post by [deleted] »

samplatt wrote: post #168
explorigin wrote: post #152

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ASD is very dynamic. It is not linear spectrum, think of it more like a polar graph. I would think 67 may be enough people to get an idea for one "hallmark" but certainly not all of them as a comprehension.

Many ASD-related surveys are not confirmed-diagnosed either, but only self-reporting as ASD. I mean I get it, it'd be a colossal pain to verify all that medical data, but it also makes for bad science.

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Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds

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Post by lusus_naturae »

Standing up for people who can't is important, but any situation calls ensuring your own safety as well—you can't help anyone if you end up a victim yourself. The worse story in recent memory is of someone who got stabbed to death in a subway because they spoke up against someone else being racist.

Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds

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Post by _8j50 »

nathan_compton wrote: post #116

I have mild autism (not entirely politically correct to describe it that way) without intellectual impairments and I frankly see normal people as disabled.

And this is one good reason to never let a shrink diagnose you.
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