I don't get it, you put that information on the internet, you have no expectation to privacy. But now maybe you learned a lesson, and you won't publicly share things you don't want people to see?
Can I remove my personal data from GenAI training datasets?
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#22The article weasels out at the end by claiming that companies “may be unable to comply” with requirements to delete personal data. It’s easy to comply - if there’s no other choice then you delete the model and all backups and derivative data that was trained in flagrant violation of the law.
I was daydreaming about other possible ways to comply, but I don't know if they'd really work in practice. Ideas like:
- Supply copywritten keywords and approved responses to try and retrain the model.
- Train the copywritten content again with inverse weighting. I imagine this one wouldn't really work well and still keep the model performance up...
Re: Can I remove my personal data from GenAI training datasets?
#23The article weasels out at the end by claiming that companies “may be unable to comply” with requirements to delete personal data. It’s easy to comply - if there’s no other choice then you delete the model and all backups and derivative data that was trained in flagrant violation of the law.
For most companies “deleting the model” is equivalent to dissolving the company so that is equivalent to not being able
to comply. More realistically what they would need to do is exit the market of the country that has such stupid laws.
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#25I don't get it, you put that information on the internet, you have no expectation to privacy. But now maybe you learned a lesson, and you won't publicly share things you don't want people to see?
The “right to be forgotten” is an explicit right in the EU, which I think applies here.
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#26I don't get it, you put that information on the internet, you have no expectation to privacy. But now maybe you learned a lesson, and you won't publicly share things you don't want people to see?
The “right to be forgotten” is an explicit right in the EU, which I think applies here.
EU rights do not apply in the US.
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#27I don't get it, you put that information on the internet, you have no expectation to privacy. But now maybe you learned a lesson, and you won't publicly share things you don't want people to see?
People didn't put their private medical records on the open internet. They may have uploaded them to a service they thought was respecting privacy but was either selling their data without disclosure or was just straight up incompetent and uploaded private-user-data.zip to a public Dropbox share.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
The complete lack of power or ownership of your work. Do you think anyone consented to have AI companies scrap GitHub etc?
Eh, you borrowed from society to create 'your work' and now you want to lock it up like you've created it wholly.
No, it's the generative AI companies that are taking from society all the data and locking it up in their opaque models and selling that as if they created it wholly.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
The complete lack of power or ownership of your work. Do you think anyone consented to have AI companies scrap GitHub etc?
They consented if the data was public. Opt-out scanning practices is a whole other beast. But unfortunately, unless you challenge the ToS in court, you consented the moment you didn't delete all of your data after the policy update. Is that fucked? Sure, and maybe we need regulation around that, but in the face of current legislation, consent was granted.
That’s factually incorrect. GitHub’s ToS don’t give them any rights to use your information in this way.
Their argument is they don’t need any such permission, but they can profit from this data by selectively allowing large scale scrapping by 3rd parties thus breaking their TOS by selling your data.
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#30I don't get it, you put that information on the internet, you have no expectation to privacy. But now maybe you learned a lesson, and you won't publicly share things you don't want people to see?
The “right to be forgotten” is an explicit right in the EU, which I think applies here.
I'm not saying that this right is a bad thing, but the reality is that it's rarely enforceable. As soon as you put something on the internet, you have every "right" to expect that it's there forever.
No amount of legislation can outweigh the technical reality.