I have mild autism (not entirely politically correct to describe it that way) without intellectual impairments and I frankly see normal people as disabled.
When you're successful at life it's called "neurodiversity".
People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds
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Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds
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I've often remarked (informally) that autistic people seem to operate under the assumption that the explicitly-stated rules are the actual rules. "Help others in need" would be the go-to example of how this confusion(?) can lead to a positive outcome.
How is “help others in need” confusingly explicit? Maybe it’s my neurodivergence talking but that seems pretty straightforward advice.
Because of the “sometimes people who help get in trouble” part.
Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds
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There is such a thing as a well-behaved dog. I don't see the social benefit of enforcing every last little law on the books all the time. I think laws (the kind we're talking about, anyway) are best seen as a tool for maintaining public order. If police encounter something dangerous or immediately disorderly, they can express their reasons for intervening in terms of laws. If you run open headers on your car and caus…
No, society works because we broadly trust that others will follow laws and that institutions will enforce the laws. It has been decided, by the public, that public spaces should not have off leash dogs in them because every dog is a “good dog” until it isn’t and someone or someone else’s animal pays the price. This is like saying it is okay for good drivers to drive through stop signs, because they’re there for the…
Literally nobody in this conversation is arguing that they should be able to do what they want.
Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds
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I know what you mean. I remember one time I got off the plane in Italy and I was walking with my girlfriend to customs. At one point we branched off from all the other passengers and she was like "hey we're going the wrong way, everyone is heading there". And I said nope this is the EU passengers exit, look at the sign. She couldn't believe it was right because the plane was full of others from our EU country. All th…
this effect seems to be especially true in airports. they seem to particularly inspire dumb herd behaviour. perhaps there's an increase in perceived danger leading to a stronger desire for safety in numbers? another example: queueing to board the plane. other than to fit in, why on earth would I stand there and compete to spend more time in a sweaty uncomfortable seat packed with 400 other people? plus, if you get on…
My intuition is that, in addition to what you mentioned and at least for longer flights, some people have residual effects from the mild hypoxia at altitude when they're on the ground in their destination airport.
I, at least, sure as hell feel dumber for the rest of the day after a six hour flight. Usually that's accompanied by a fairly debilitating headache.
Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds
#165I have mild autism (not entirely politically correct to describe it that way) without intellectual impairments and I frankly see normal people as disabled.
I know what you mean. I remember one time I got off the plane in Italy and I was walking with my girlfriend to customs. At one point we branched off from all the other passengers and she was like "hey we're going the wrong way, everyone is heading there". And I said nope this is the EU passengers exit, look at the sign. She couldn't believe it was right because the plane was full of others from our EU country. All th…
Alternatively: they followed the heuristic that would get them to the right place in any properly-designed airport. Unfortunately this particular airport seems to have been designed improperly.
Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds
#166I have mild autism (not entirely politically correct to describe it that way) without intellectual impairments and I frankly see normal people as disabled.
I know what you mean. I remember one time I got off the plane in Italy and I was walking with my girlfriend to customs. At one point we branched off from all the other passengers and she was like "hey we're going the wrong way, everyone is heading there". And I said nope this is the EU passengers exit, look at the sign. She couldn't believe it was right because the plane was full of others from our EU country. All th…
What does this have to do with autism, though? It is not defined by the ability to read signs, is it?
A week ago I returned to America from abroad and, by reading the signs at SFO, I downloaded the CBP app and abandoned the gigantic line in favor of the completely empty line. I am evidently in the top 1% of sign readers, but I don't know if I am autistic.
Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds
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I don't have a dog, but i've known many and never a dangerous one. In the UK its very common to have large parks with dogs just running around; I'm not aware of any cases where this has caused a problem. I've no objection to the rule. My issue is with how the rule is being interpreted. If someone were to ask, 'please keep a leash on' i'd expect people to be polite enough to do so. But that's the gravity of the situat…
- A 2021 study of fatal dog attacks in Europe during the period 1995–2016 placed the United Kingdom (with 56 fatalities) as fourth in the top five countries for number of human fatalities alongside Hungary (#1), France (#2), Romania (#3), and Poland (#5). - Hospital episode data for England also reveal an upward trend in the number of attendances for dog related injuries in the past 15 years. There has been an 88% in…
The UK is also the third most populous country in that study, so that’s not surprising.
I’m not sure the reason behind the rise, but my anecdotal experience is that people are more likely now to keep their dog on a lead than they were in the past.
We have seen a rise in poorly bred and poorly socialised large breed dogs over the past few decades, the latest being the XL Bully. My guess is they are contributing significantly to the rise in attacks.
Also speaking as someone who always keeps their dog on a lead in parks, the lead is really more of a suggestion for a big dog. If a Bully, Doberman or even a Husky wants to attack, a lead won’t stop it.
Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds
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Why is a study of 67 people not serious? If their sampling is solid it should be more than enough.
ASD is very dynamic. It is not linear spectrum, think of it more like a polar graph. I would think 67 may be enough people to get an idea for one "hallmark" but certainly not all of them as a comprehension.
Many ASD-related surveys are not confirmed-diagnosed either, but only self-reporting as ASD.
I mean I get it, it'd be a colossal pain to verify all that medical data, but it also makes for bad science.
Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds
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I know what you mean. I remember one time I got off the plane in Italy and I was walking with my girlfriend to customs. At one point we branched off from all the other passengers and she was like "hey we're going the wrong way, everyone is heading there". And I said nope this is the EU passengers exit, look at the sign. She couldn't believe it was right because the plane was full of others from our EU country. All th…
What does this have to do with autism, though? It is not defined by the ability to read signs, is it? A week ago I returned to America from abroad and, by reading the signs at SFO, I downloaded the CBP app and abandoned the gigantic line in favor of the completely empty line. I am evidently in the top 1% of sign readers, but I don't know if I am autistic.
> What does this have to do with autism, though? It is not defined by the ability to read signs, is it?
No but it's partly defined by the lower ability to form part of social groups and thus follow others on autopilot. And thus being more aware of situations.
The story was not really a definition rather than a symptom. One that can be caused by more than one thing.
Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds
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I know what you mean. I remember one time I got off the plane in Italy and I was walking with my girlfriend to customs. At one point we branched off from all the other passengers and she was like "hey we're going the wrong way, everyone is heading there". And I said nope this is the EU passengers exit, look at the sign. She couldn't believe it was right because the plane was full of others from our EU country. All th…
What does this have to do with autism, though? It is not defined by the ability to read signs, is it? A week ago I returned to America from abroad and, by reading the signs at SFO, I downloaded the CBP app and abandoned the gigantic line in favor of the completely empty line. I am evidently in the top 1% of sign readers, but I don't know if I am autistic.
If you've spent your whole life wondering how the fuck the bulk of people seem to make confusing or challenging decisions maybe you just evaluate 'from first principals' in more situations.