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Re: Use YouTube to improve your English pronunciation

#31
post #8

A great project. I tried searching for the german word "Eichhörnchen" and the third pronounciation was in swiss german. That is a different language. Use with caution :)

It even found one occurence of an Austrian slang pronounciation of "Eichhörnchen": "Oachkatzl"

Though, in the video it is wrongly claimed that "Oachkatzlschwoaf" would mean squirrel, but in fact it means tail of a squirrel (Eichhörnchenschwanz).

Re: Use YouTube to improve your English pronunciation

#32
I found it odd their first two examples were power and courage, where the first example ("power") is an American, the second speaker ("courage") is British. I'm picturing myself using a tool like this with an unfamiliar language where it wouldn't be immediately obvious to me, say Spanish in Spain vs Mexico, and getting very confused, very quickly.

I like it in concept, though!

Re: Use YouTube to improve your English pronunciation

#33
post #3

This is really interesting! Instead of "here's how you are SUPPOSED to pronounce" any given word or phrase, you show how a bunch of native English speakers actually pronounce it. Maybe everyone is wrong, but if your goal is to be understood then you'd be better mimicking what they do than just being technically correct. :) For example, there's a street in the city I live in spelled "Guadalupe". Natives pretty much un…

Language (especially spoken language, most especially English) doesn't really have a "right" or "wrong." It has "likely to be understood by receiver" and "unlikely to be understood by receiver."

The real correct answer to anyone's "what's the right way to say...?" question is a probability distribution.

Re: Use YouTube to improve your English pronunciation

#34
post #26

I guess it leverages LLMs to do semantic search on YouTube audio dataset?

Systems like this predate LLMs. For example this one at UCLA https://tvnews.sscnet.ucla.edu/public/. Looks like this one has been around for a while https://web.archive.org/web/20230000000000*/https://youglish....

Re: Use YouTube to improve your English pronunciation

#35
post #9

Pro tip: Use YouTube to learn the pronunciation of non-English words, too! Hors d'oeuvres: https://youtu.be/o1-ndsRPxbM Châteauneuf-du-Pape: https://youtu.be/3DSgsON3u8E Laphroaig: https://youtu.be/UdE20EFNDUs

> Hors d'oeuvres: https://youtu.be/o1-ndsRPxbM > > Châteauneuf-du-Pape: https://youtu.be/3DSgsON3u8E

Are these jokes? It's not at all the french pronunciation of these. As in: it's so wrong a native french speaker won't even have a clue what you're trying to say (it's so off base it's totally impossible).

Try to pronounce "pneu" (tire) in french, that's good one:

https://youtu.be/q8aDEF7FH8o

(and that's the real, proper, correct, pronunciation of "pneu" in french)

Re: Use YouTube to improve your English pronunciation

#36
This is a very interesting site.

I took the name "Regina" as an example as its pronounced very differently between Canada/UK and US.

If you toggle through the site's region selectors it does indeed produce videos with the regionally correct pronouciation. (Admittedly I had a sample size of N=1 video each)

So yeah, its a great start!

Re: Use YouTube to improve your English pronunciation

#37
Another useful site for hearing pronunciations is Forvo:

https://forvo.com/

Those are user contributed pronunciations, so there was an effort to say the word clearly. Although Youglish might be more authentic in a sense, I prefer hearing a word enunciated precisely if I want to learn the pronunciation. And I want to hear it in isolation, at least the first time, rather than in the middle of long sentence.

Re: Use YouTube to improve your English pronunciation

#38
Something I’ve learned as someone with high proficiency in another language that I learned in adulthood (I would never say fluent, maybe “functionally” fluent):

Poor pronunciation (I.e. thick accent) but good grammar is usually more forgiven by a native than great pronunciation but poor grammar. Because then you sound more native, but you sound a bit… mentally slow.

I am in the latter camp. My Mandarin Chinese accent is really quite good. But I sound like a child.

So my suggestion to all learning a new language: keep a bit of your accent and heavily index on correct grammar and vocab and listening skills.

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