This CNBC article has a good description of what's in the executive order that was issued. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/30/biden-unveils-us-governments...
What does this have to do with the USAjobs portal that this thread is about?
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I know everyone has already figured out what you're trying to say, but for clarity, do you mind elaborating on what you meant here?
Why add a section on immigration?
The stuff on the page is already known. They just add it to cross off a checkbox of what they wanted to signal. And its just a generic description of the visas and nothing localized to th visa type and ai.
And for the other commenters calling me "right wing', my views are pretty much '04 Obama. It's just telling how far off the rails we have gone.
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#83So far the support of Apple, Google, Microsoft, Facebook and Cisco/Akami have given the US government a business, intelligence, and social engineering platform the likes the world has never seen before, and still people today wildly undervalue its power in the world today. They have effectively deplatformed Europe, South America, the Middle East and Asia, put anyone but China within second reach from a mass data coll…
> America's global brain drain might have been the single most effective strategy that the planet has seen so far... > The only question is if the rest of the world is going to wake up and counter this. Probably not. Simply put, there's no first-world country in the world where top talent can earn even close to a US salary, which largely due to the fact that US is relatively permissive towards large income disparitie…
> largely due to the fact that US is relatively permissive towards large income disparities.
Actually, its due to a shortage of highly skilled labor/specialists relative to demand. Europe benefits from more advanced math and programming talent as a result of Eastern European and Russian/Ukraine labor availability. US immigration policy puts America at a disadvantage in this regard - something they are weakly trying to address here.
Sorry if that goes against your income inequality agenda.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
> America's global brain drain might have been the single most effective strategy that the planet has seen so far... > The only question is if the rest of the world is going to wake up and counter this. Probably not. Simply put, there's no first-world country in the world where top talent can earn even close to a US salary, which largely due to the fact that US is relatively permissive towards large income disparitie…
> Simply put, there's no first-world country in the world where top talent can earn even close to a US salary, which largely due to the fact that US is relatively permissive towards large income disparities. Why do you think it's A -> B and not B -> A? What factors of the US being permissive towards large income disparities do other nations lack that prevent them from paying equivalent salaries. One specific thing I'…
It has an undeniable ability to draw the best talent away from Europe and Asia, who want to earn more. I have worked with armies of these people -- they left their home countries for the opportunity for the big check. And those checks are way past the disparity you describe from at will employment, this is 10x more not 1.4x more.
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#85So far the support of Apple, Google, Microsoft, Facebook and Cisco/Akami have given the US government a business, intelligence, and social engineering platform the likes the world has never seen before, and still people today wildly undervalue its power in the world today. They have effectively deplatformed Europe, South America, the Middle East and Asia, put anyone but China within second reach from a mass data coll…
No one else is really capable of making this technology at the level of the US, besides maybe China. Europe has the brainpower for sure, but they don't seem to be able to leverage it into actual innovation.
European technologists and engineers are hamstrung by EU regulations.
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
So what you're saying is, government is too..... Conservative? :p Maybe we are just feeling the effects that the modern American "left" is basically just the American right of the 60s lol We need some actual liberals who aren't just socially liberal but also willing to spend money on new ideas.
We spend plenty of money on ideas. We need to pay for results. We should stop pretending government is ever going to be good at buying/building tech and change procurement to pay for innovative results. How many $50 or $100M government tech projects have to fail before we let them post an RFP that basically says do this thing in this amount of time for this amount of money with payment after we get the “thing” in tim…
That approach works for buying a WordPress deployment or a Gmail license. It doesn’t for anything where you need customization, serving needs or audiences which the private sector doesn’t prioritize (the VA can’t blow off accessibility or tell veterans that they need a fiber connected-M2 to have decent performance), or provide income to a startup which needs to explore a somewhat novel problem.
The real problem here is one you see in many organizations: misaligned incentives. Government has some unique challenges but most of what you see are common in the private sector, too: some people talk like the public sector is consistently super high quality on lean budgets but for every Chrome there are a dozen terrible enterprise apps which also fully count as private sector products. The pathologies are mostly the same: internal politics, building things you won’t personally use, not wanting to revisit past decisions, or otherwise having your paycheck come from things other than what’s best for your users.
Startups aren’t magic pixie dust for avoiding those problems: most fail, and the winners often hit the same problems from a different direction - making users happy until Google buys them and cancels the good parts, having to start aggressively monetizing at the expense of the user experience, etc.
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#87The US government can't legally pay the salaries required to find AI experts right now (just look at the salaries on the open positions). So all this work will end up being done by contractors who _can_ pay those salaries while the contractors skim off the top. The US really needs a special schedule for software developers if they want technical expertise in house (and they really should have technical expertise in h…
Same story in France and I suspect other countries
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#88How do I not pay for this with my tax dollars?
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Do you have a source for AWS employing 15K H1B holders? That's an insane number!
https://www.myvisajobs.com/Reports/2023-H1B-Visa-Sponsor.asp... No idea how reliable that site is, but it says Amazon.com sponsored 16,299, Amazon Web Services sponsored 5,056, and Amazon Development Center sponsored 2,119. So 23,474 in total. Edit: I see a note that this is APPLICATIONS, not grants. Nevermind, that's probably not accurate.
Those LCA applications aren’t 1-1 with H1B quota numbers. Eg after 3 years when renewing a H1B the employer needs to file an LCA but that won’t count against the cap. Similar for H1B transfers and renewals past 6 years.
Overall the claim that Amazon takes 25 percent of H1Bs is extremely incorrect.
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#90Occasionally I enjoy viewing the HTML of websites to try to deduce what web framework they are using. I couldn't figure it out for this one, but here are some things that I find interesting:
- On line 90 of the homepage, there is a single script called `document.createElement('main');`
- The website uses the `` tag to support multiple sources for images
- script.js on the website has ANSI art of the US flag (https://ai.gov/wp-content/themes/static/ai46/assets/js/scrip...)