The relevant psychological variable here might be conformity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conformity
There are interesting other connections as well, for example, men have been found to exhibit less conformity than women.
People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hi, I posted this study because I have Asperger’s and this is what was always said about my behavior. Yesterday I literally had to stop myself from sending photographs to the police of a guy walking his dog off leash in a park that has signs forbidding it. And my reason for wanting to call the police is because of my compassion for the dog or for anyone the dog to hurt. Not so much that it was only that the man was d…
Dogs like being off lead. Running around is sort of their driving motive.
A lot of dogs also like to bite people, or scare birds, or scare other dogs….
Just because something likes to do something does not mean we should let it do it.
Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds
#23There was a similar article postulating that dissidents (for example from Eastern Europe) are often on the spectrum, for that very reason, if they see injustice, they are vocal about it.
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#24Anecdotal evidence: around me, several kids are on the autistic spectrum. It's hard to prevent them from intervening when they notice what they feel is an injustice, towards them or others. At some point, this included one of them regularly attempting to rescue babies from baby trolleys, which they considered a prison. Fortunately, the would-be rescuer was only aged 3 at the time.
Hi, I posted this study because I have Asperger’s and this is what was always said about my behavior. Yesterday I literally had to stop myself from sending photographs to the police of a guy walking his dog off leash in a park that has signs forbidding it. And my reason for wanting to call the police is because of my compassion for the dog or for anyone the dog to hurt. Not so much that it was only that the man was d…
Can you explain how it's more compassionate for a dog to be kept leashed?
In my experience dogs are less stressed without a leash. The primary reason for using a leash is that I feel compassionate about people who are afraid of dogs or don't like them. Seeing a leashed dog makes them feel more secure.
Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds
#25Anecdotal evidence: around me, several kids are on the autistic spectrum. It's hard to prevent them from intervening when they notice what they feel is an injustice, towards them or others. At some point, this included one of them regularly attempting to rescue babies from baby trolleys, which they considered a prison. Fortunately, the would-be rescuer was only aged 3 at the time.
I don’t think that concern for injustice is something universal or even necessarily widespread among autistic people. That is, I believe that there are plenty of autistic people who do not give a fuck, eschew social causes completely, feel misanthropic, etc. Rather, I think that the examples you encountered represent that segment of autistic people who do care, and due to the difficulty that autistic people have with…
Every autistic person I've met (and I've met a LOT of them) has this similar drive to stop injustice when they see it (regardless of how much they hate society in general).
Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds
#26“With autism” A large portion of the autistic community is very against this phrasing. Autism is not a disease you carry, or something you “have”. It should be used as an adjective to describe a person: “Autistic people less likely to succumb to bystander effect” Edit: If you follow through to the actual paper referenced you can see they use the correct phrasing.
I'm a brown haired person. I'm also a person with brown hair. Neither phrasing makes my brown hair a disease I carry.
Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hi, I posted this study because I have Asperger’s and this is what was always said about my behavior. Yesterday I literally had to stop myself from sending photographs to the police of a guy walking his dog off leash in a park that has signs forbidding it. And my reason for wanting to call the police is because of my compassion for the dog or for anyone the dog to hurt. Not so much that it was only that the man was d…
It might be important to realise that signs and rules are made up by sign-makers and rule-makers; often to their benefit. Reality doesnt come with a rule about leashing dogs on grass. It feels like something is going wrong here in your connecting a dog being off a leash with somehow empathy for the dog. I read your impulse to act here as your mind being hijacked by the sign-maker to conscript you into their preferred…
No, these rules exist so that everyone can have a safe space. Go find an off-leash area for your dog.
Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds
#28“With autism” A large portion of the autistic community is very against this phrasing. Autism is not a disease you carry, or something you “have”. It should be used as an adjective to describe a person: “Autistic people less likely to succumb to bystander effect” Edit: If you follow through to the actual paper referenced you can see they use the correct phrasing.
I'm a brown haired person. I'm also a person with brown hair. Neither phrasing makes my brown hair a disease I carry.
That’s a totally false comparison. Brown hair is something you physically have.
Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds
#29Anecdotal evidence: around me, several kids are on the autistic spectrum. It's hard to prevent them from intervening when they notice what they feel is an injustice, towards them or others. At some point, this included one of them regularly attempting to rescue babies from baby trolleys, which they considered a prison. Fortunately, the would-be rescuer was only aged 3 at the time.
I don’t think that concern for injustice is something universal or even necessarily widespread among autistic people. That is, I believe that there are plenty of autistic people who do not give a fuck, eschew social causes completely, feel misanthropic, etc. Rather, I think that the examples you encountered represent that segment of autistic people who do care, and due to the difficulty that autistic people have with…
Why such irrelevant comment? You have the crystal ball or all seeing eye or what? Read the study before making such comments
Re: People with autism less likely to succumb to bystander effect, research finds
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t think that concern for injustice is something universal or even necessarily widespread among autistic people. That is, I believe that there are plenty of autistic people who do not give a fuck, eschew social causes completely, feel misanthropic, etc. Rather, I think that the examples you encountered represent that segment of autistic people who do care, and due to the difficulty that autistic people have with…
Every autistic person I've met (and I've met a LOT of them) has this similar drive to stop injustice when they see it (regardless of how much they hate society in general).
There are plenty of people on the spectrum here who will disagree. Moreover, as someone in that category in Eastern Europe with local peers in that category, I find that quite a few of us share the fatalism that the region is known for and can be suspicious or mocking of attempts to stop injustice. Indeed, could it be that in your region (or in the region of the linked study) concern for social justice is simply a common feature of society such that autistic people will share it, and therefore this is a matter of culture and not autism worldwide?