YouTube is at the breaking point for me this week. Apparently I was tested with the optional popup that I needed to remove my adblocker or else. I refused now they don't bother with the popup and just display a message on the video itself and block me because of my adblocker. Literally a few minutes ago I tried to reply to a comment on my phone (that doesn't have adblockers) and every ad would cause what I typed to disappear while I was typing so I had to make sure to only comment after like 3 ads ran first. But I got so frustrated with it I left halfway through the video. Google is known for having bad service with useless customer support so why would I want to pay for service I know will continue to get worse no matter what? There is no reward for trying to maintain what I had. Are there no other means then a subscription to bring back what I once had for free? Why not invent something instead of ruining my feeds and forcing dumb shorts everywhere that are worse then tiktok? I am happy to pay it's competition for service.
YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin
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Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin
#502Earlier quoted context omitted.
> YouTube is the one that feels "Entitled" to show me advertisements They show you advertisements in exchange for the free content they provide. You can just as easily not visit the website if you don't feel like the service they provide is worth the risk of being shown the ads they serve.
At a certain scale, you can no longer say "it's just business". YouTube is where people go to post and upload videos. YouTube has a dominant place in the market and in people's minds. Does it cost money to run? Yes. Does Google deserve to have those costs covered? Yes. Should Google be entitled to abuse their dominant position? Certainly not. I do feel bad for who high-quality creators are not able to make ends meet,…
> At a certain scale, you can no longer say "it's just business".
Of course you can. Me blocking ads is just business. It's nothing personal.
Them blocking my blocking is also just business. Me blocking their blocking is likewise just business.
Either they'll give up or I'll give up. Whichever happens, that content will make less money.
IOW, the money that content is making right now is exactly what the market will bear.
If too many people stop watching because they can't block the ads then content producers have to decide to migrate, to stay and make exactly what their product is worth, or to simply stop producing.
It's purely business for all parties involved, including the product i.e. viewers.
Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin
#503Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think most people use adblockers, people who don't know what browser extensions are just suffer the ads. If users would want to make Youtube change its policy, there's a better way: get together and start acting like a click farm. If you click every ad on every page and immediately open the tabs you opened, advertisers will start paying Google for nothing. Something like a subreddit coming together would defi…
The issue with this is that google might show you ads that distribute malware.
It seems like a technical solution might work here: instead of opening the ads within the browser, open a separate, containerized browser and copy the ad link over there and open it, in the background, so any malware is unable to affect your data.
Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin
#504Earlier quoted context omitted.
They could be hosted elsewhere. Why should free education material that is already funded by donations be locked behind ad based hosting? Hosting is not that expensive if you're using only those services. Especially in the countries where it's mostly being used.
> not that expensive yeah, but it’s hard to overstate how much less expensive “free” is than anything else. I don’t know how you do free video hosting for the entire world without YouTube’s model.
If you are talking about educational content for the entire world, I would argue that it's a significantly smaller achievement, than a service where everyone is watching cat videos all night.
Free education is a niche market for a niche audience.
YouTube is hardly the correct platform for that.
Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin
#505I watch ads on YouTube mobile app because there in no way to block ads over there but why the hell YouTube and Google want me to watch ads on a desktop YouTube?! Doesn't majority of Google's and YouTube's ad revenue come from mobile?
Use uBO with Firefox Android and you won't have to watch ads on mobile. Or Adguard with Safari if you're in the walled garden OS.
altstore makes it easy to sideload apps even on ios. uyou+ even has sponsorblock built in
Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin
#506Earlier quoted context omitted.
They could be hosted elsewhere. Why should free education material that is already funded by donations be locked behind ad based hosting? Hosting is not that expensive if you're using only those services. Especially in the countries where it's mostly being used.
What do you mean funded by donations? People making educational YouTube videos have their income from YouTube advertising and Premium subscribers. People having utility from their videos should pay for them. I find it incredible that people accept and support enormous amounts of tax money from workers go to pay for worthless schools, while at the same time they are grinding their teeth at the suggestion that they pay…
See the post I was replying to.
Khan Academy, MIT free courses, etc.
Those are in fact funded by donations. If you check the viewership numbers on individual course videos, it is unlikely they are generating a positive revenue from YouTube payouts.
As for being upset that people don't want to pay, I think I can help with that. People don't want to pay TWICE. We already donated to Khan or MIT. Why are we also paying YouTube to obfuscate FREE content?
Khan should choose a different method of delivery. YouTube is not a proper platform for educational videos.
Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin
#507Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What's your issue with having to watch ads if you watch less than 1 hour of video content a month? Moral issues, security issues, etc. These have been discussed in pretty much every thread about adblocking ever, really. I get that you might disagree with them, of course, but no need to rehash the here. I don't even like company logos displayed on my clothing, so you can guess which side of the "how much do you hate…
> Moral issues, security issues, etc. How is blocking ads not a moral issue? Video creators also get hurt by ad blockers, not just YT, which does have costs associated with serving you video. > So on those you never see ads? I think they started showing ads on them, just fewer. They do cost storage and bandwidth, so what's wrong with that? > Well, I can't speak for anyone else but I'm a middle-aged historian, so star…
Yes but, how are the content creators my problem, especially when Google isn't vetting their ads well enough to keep scam and malvertising people off their and networks. I could raise you to counter that the morally right thing to do is block those ads, at least until Google starts vetting its advertisers well enough to keep scammers out. How do content creators feel, profiting from the scamvertising going on on google's platforms?
Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin
#508No one here uses Brave? Ads blocked automatically.
Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin
#509YouTube is at the breaking point for me this week. Apparently I was tested with the optional popup that I needed to remove my adblocker or else. I refused now they don't bother with the popup and just display a message on the video itself and block me because of my adblocker. Literally a few minutes ago I tried to reply to a comment on my phone (that doesn't have adblockers) and every ad would cause what I typed to d…
> Are there no other means then a subscription to bring back what I once had for free?
> I am happy to pay it's competition for service
You can just pay for YouTube.... How many times did you need customer service on YouTube that it's your main argument for not paying
Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin
#510Some interesting information in that article about youtube blocking people with privacy plugins. So it seems you need to wave your state given privacy rights to to use youtube. Even after disabling my only adblocker, Youtube seems to partally load, then break for long periods. I don't even have any extra privacy plugins installed, but I do use Brave browser, that does have some privacy settings built in. If I try to…
> Some interesting information in that article about youtube blocking people with privacy plugins. So it seems you need to wave your state given privacy rights to to use youtube.
Which state rights does YouTube violate?