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How many billions of transistors in an iPhone processor?

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Re: How many billions of transistors in an iPhone processor?

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It takes being a Marvel superhero to extrapolate from yesterday and today to tomorrow?

No, to know what past change would've made today much better.

I do wish that people who feel the need to dispute what I've said in this thread would more reliably address themselves to things I have said, rather than to claims I've not even approached making.

Re: How many billions of transistors in an iPhone processor?

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They don't have to be the same, but exploration is a necessary part of the scientific process, whether that be in the depths of the ocean, inside the earth, or in space. Curiosity has driven exploration, discovery, and subsequently science. It's fine that you're not as curious as some, but suggesting that we must only focus on things on Earth when we have literally billions of people on earth that all have individual…

The Nuremberg Code also limits progress. Will you make the same complaint about it? If not, then we've established a mutually acceptable baseline for limits on human progress, and a subset of mutually acceptable reasons for imposing such limits. I suggest only that we need not stop there.

These aren't remotely comparable. How about just justify your rationale behind wanting to impose limits on space exploration on all of humanity?

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The Nuremberg Code also limits progress. Will you make the same complaint about it? If not, then we've established a mutually acceptable baseline for limits on human progress, and a subset of mutually acceptable reasons for imposing such limits. I suggest only that we need not stop there.

These aren't remotely comparable. How about just justify your rationale behind wanting to impose limits on space exploration on all of humanity?

I did that in my first comment. How on Earth do you support the claim that one deliberately self-imposed limit on human progress can't be compared with another?

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I have never lived in a world where there was not the existential threat of nuclear annihilation in every minute of every hour of every day of my life. But you're right: I'm not going to get lost in my own city - or yours - because I have an iPhone in my pocket. I may never really learn my city and all its hidden little secrets you find only by wandering around, but I'll be efficient getting to the bar in a "climate…

This is incredibly myopic and ungrateful. Thanks to technology, we don’t have to try and have eight kids—losing half of them at a young age—just so that we don’t lose the farm and starve. Thanks to technology, millions of children are protected from diseases that years ago they would’ve died from. But sure, blame technology for your lack of self control causing you to stare at your phone at bars.

Thanks to technology, I have no interest in ever having kids.

Re: How many billions of transistors in an iPhone processor?

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I consider myself very lucky to be born in this age of civilization where technology increases at such incredible pace. Playing games on an atari in my childhood, then sega master system, nintendo, snes, pc games, the first 3d acceleration consumer cards, all the way to having a supercomputer in my pocket. What a time to be alive.

I think it is more amazing that we went from the Wright brothers in 1903 to landing on the moon in 1969.

Or more democratically the Boeing 747 in 1969.

sort of like - a few guys fly across a field to me and my entire high school class can buy tickets and fly across the pacific.

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I'd like to see some justification for considering science and space exploration as one and the same. It's hardly as if we've run out of things to learn from this planet, after all.

Personally I'd like to see some justification for discovering America, there was plenty to be learned in Spain and Portugal at the time.

Well the people that were already here and died from both disease brought by the Europeans and murder might not see that as progress

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I have never lived in a world where there was not the existential threat of nuclear annihilation in every minute of every hour of every day of my life. But you're right: I'm not going to get lost in my own city - or yours - because I have an iPhone in my pocket. I may never really learn my city and all its hidden little secrets you find only by wandering around, but I'll be efficient getting to the bar in a "climate…

> but I'll be efficient getting to the bar in a "climate controlled buildings" where I'll just stare at the iPhone some more and not really talk to anyone, as that's what everyone is doing, too. Sometimes I wonder if internet people are living in parallel universe. I see literally opposite, wherever I go, of what people like you describe.

Well you're spending your Sunday staring at a screen on a venture capitalist's message board, having contributed nine comments in the last 24 hours. Where are you right now, exactly?

Re: How many billions of transistors in an iPhone processor?

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These aren't remotely comparable. How about just justify your rationale behind wanting to impose limits on space exploration on all of humanity?

I did that in my first comment. How on Earth do you support the claim that one deliberately self-imposed limit on human progress can't be compared with another?

You defined the limitation as "looking after the people on earth first," which has basically no meaning, so no, I would not say that you adequately defined those constraints in your first comment.

> How on Earth do you support the claim that one deliberately self-imposed limit on human progress can't be compared with another?

You're being obtuse. There's a much more clearly defined intersection of human ethics when it comes to performing science on human beings than there is with some sort of vague proposition that space exploration is a waste of resources that is harming humanity indirectly by not allocating those resources towards taking care of other human beings.

Re: How many billions of transistors in an iPhone processor?

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I think it is more amazing that we went from the Wright brothers in 1903 to landing on the moon in 1969.

And we haven't been back in 50 years, despite all the incredible technology improvements. The Apollo guidance computers had "several tens of thousands of transistors"[0], we now have 19 billion in our pocket! 0: https://www.aei.org/technology-and-innovation/apollo-11-mank... .

Why go to the moon a second time?

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On the one hand, I love the idea of living a slower-paced, less competitive life. Most humans ending up crammed into urban rat-races is a horrible outcome. On the other hand, I like not dying in agony of easily treatable diseases. I like that the vast majority of people in developed countries have zero chance of dying of malnutrition. Having to choose between one or the other would suck. I wonder if we can have both?

Nothing is stopping you from living a slower-paced, less competitive life right now, today. While still getting all the benefits of society being advanced enough to not die in agony of easily treatable diseases.

I cannot sleep well at night knowing my neighbor just upgraded his Porsche.
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