I have not seen youtube's warning on iphone safari (not logged in, firefox focus and 1blocker legacy content blockers)
but that could be because i am using vinegar[0] to replace youtube's player with a tag
YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin
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#312Earlier quoted context omitted.
> not that expensive yeah, but it’s hard to overstate how much less expensive “free” is than anything else. I don’t know how you do free video hosting for the entire world without YouTube’s model.
ipfs or torrents integrated into the browser. The "sharing economy" and p2p were huge back before corporations figured out how to get it under control and corral people back onto centralized, ephemeral streaming platforms. Instead of a "like" people could give a video a pin, and then they'll have their own offline copy as long as they want it, and also help share it.
I think the bigger issue with p2p nowadays is the move to portable devices. The majority of people nowadays are on phones if not laptop and tablets. P2P has the user giving up their storage, battery life, and data. It works fine in more niche applications, but it'll never be mainstream.
It's probably not even possible on iOS devices because of the limitations in background processes.
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#313Apart from the Youtube stuff, the post also highlights something else, entitlement towards free services like uBlock origin. > It’s one thing to play cat and mouse with YouTube. It’s quite another to deal with a wave of angry users. > And then one of the moderators actually deleted their Reddit account. “The ID in the post wasn’t updated because my mother was hospitalized,” they said. It’s sad to see them leave becau…
It also feels awful to be called a beggar and a panhandler just because you're trying to find a balance and build a sustainable project by having a donation popup (that can be disabled) in your software. This disgusting review was sitting at the top of the review page for Search by Image on the Chrome Web Store: https://i.imgur.com/P1QU176.png This person has edited their review a couple of times in the past year whi…
imagine having the ability to dislike something without characterizing it as disgusting.
One could almost call it a super power.
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#314Why, from first principles, should YouTube allow this? Why shouldn’t they go thermonuclear? I understand ads are annoying - I block as many as I can! - but I’ve never seen someone put together a coherent defense of the practice.
> I’ve never seen someone put together a coherent defense of the practice Let me give it a try then. As part of part of our cognitive functions, our attention is inalienable. It is ours. It's not theirs to sell off to the highest bidder. It's not currency to pay for services with. They do not get to insert brands and taglines into our minds without our consent. Advertising is mind rape and ad blocking is justified se…
If you care enough to describe advertising as “mind rape,” why use the service at all?
Why should you be allowed to take a thing from them without paying for it in some way? Just because you are technically able?
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#315Earlier quoted context omitted.
Jordan and Kenya. I'm American, for what it's worth. Frustrating that I can't just pay and use Premium while they sort out their content jurisdiction issues. They know what I'm watching, and from where—can't they figure out how to do their licensing stuff?! If I subscribe while in the US/EU (or on a VPN) it works, but the second you connect from an IP in a country that isn't supported, you get a notice that you will…
You expect Google to prioritize Youtube Premium support in a country with $2,000 GDP per capita?
Apparently those countries are important enough to provide the service and show ads – is it really so absurd that people in those countries are frustrated by not having the ability to buy YT Premium?
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#316Earlier quoted context omitted.
But I don't understand why this would be annoying at all to the developers. I have absolutely zero conundrum with just ignoring a request if I'm not in the mood to do it. Most of them I even delete outright, but I still have requests that were sent to me in 00s that I'm keeping just in case one day "I'm in the mood". And yes, people request (demand!) crazy things, and have done so for decades. There are even "If you…
I mean, you still read them though, right? And you somewhat sort out the ones based on how much of a buffoon the user is? Maybe someone with excellent writing skills and having demonstrated reading all the documentation and FAQs is still asking for help in a respectful and intelligent way, and so maybe you engage. All of that is mental tax. And it gets tiring, even if you're mostly ignoring the request. It's still ti…
> I mean, you still read them though, right?
no?
am I the only one with the super power of leaving a discussion and never going back?
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#317Earlier quoted context omitted.
We could apply LLMs to act as an interface with the angry crowd, rephrasing angry comments into constructive criticism and summarizing needs. In turn LLMs could be applied to synthesise development progress and answer the angry crowd. Everyone would be happy.
Or, use an LLM to detect angry comments and delete them before any humans have to deal with the BS
or use LLM's to ruby my feet before bed since apparently LLM's can, and should, be applied to everything.
I can't wait for the day an LLM can wipe my ass for me.
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#318Earlier quoted context omitted.
ipfs or torrents integrated into the browser. The "sharing economy" and p2p were huge back before corporations figured out how to get it under control and corral people back onto centralized, ephemeral streaming platforms. Instead of a "like" people could give a video a pin, and then they'll have their own offline copy as long as they want it, and also help share it.
I think the bigger issue with p2p nowadays is the move to portable devices. The majority of people nowadays are on phones if not laptop and tablets. P2P has the user giving up their storage, battery life, and data. It works fine in more niche applications, but it'll never be mainstream. It's probably not even possible on iOS devices because of the limitations in background processes.
My phone is linked to my desktop and can send tabs. No reason it couldn't proxy p2p connections (and pins) though my desktop. Or more generally torrent/ipfs gateways could be a thing people pay for (or ISPs might offer to reduce their own transfer costs by caching popular content), making it easy for mobile users while keeping the fundamental technology distributed. Mobile devices could also pin directly to cloud storage.
There's a massive design space here if we didn't already have google dumping on the market. Or if we didn't allow media companies (who don't want p2p) to monopolize providing Internet service. And if government subsidies and spectrum licenses came with an ipv6 mandate so we could ditch NAT.
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#319Earlier quoted context omitted.
Expecting that the videos will be free with no qualifiers (such as an ad playing) is also entitlement. Not that you have said that explicitly but that seems to be a common assumption among many adblock users.
YouTube is free to make windows and Mac apps, and turn off their web views. They're relying on me doing work to run a browser that renders their ads, rather than providing a binary. They're not sending me a page of ads, they're sending me a couple files that I can choose how to show and what to put through a JavaScript interpreter
>YouTube is free to make windows and Mac apps, and turn off their web views.
I have revanced which edits their binary to remove ads. I don't see what your point has to do with mine though. My point is this: adblock users are grazing from youtube's field. We are eating the grass that youtube has planted and watered. To expect that such a field exists and then to expect that it can be eaten from at will is entitlement. To say "but they put up no fence" (or, more accurately, a weak fence) is not a refutation of this point. In fact it is exactlty what defines it as being a tragedy of the commons.
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#320If YouTube provides a service that removes ads ONLY for $4.99/month, they would already have my money. However they have to bundle it with YouTube Music and other stuff into "Premium", then never mind.
Even if they did that there would be no guarantee the price would remain the same. Google has done unannounced price increases for premium at least 3 times in the last year or so.