YouTube's anti adblock efforts are a good thing. For too long have a huge number of users been freeloading off free content
YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin
31–40 of 781 posts
Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin
#32I use NewPipe on my phone, SmartTubeNext on my Android TV, and uBlock+FF inside of a container without being logged in on my laptop.
I was at a friend's house yesterday and they showed me a video on YouTube. I couldn't believe how many ads there were. It was unwatchable. Not sure how people don't pay for premium or block ads. What a miserable experience.
Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin
#33Jesus Christ, some people are so entitled.
I want YouTube to be free! I want my YouTube ad free! I want my adblocker free! I want support and devs for my free adblocker to be on top of everything and to make sure I never have to watch an ad and never pay a dime on the Internet!
Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin
#34YouTube will "lose" the war, but they'll make adblocking difficult enough for a while that it might get some premium subscribers in the short term in exchange for the loss of goodwill.
I think this is a bit backward in that the reason they're having to force it and facing resistance in the first place is that they've burned a ton of goodwill over the years through increasing ads, refusing to fix their DMCA process and letting their AI run rampant banning and demonetizing people at random with almost no way of actually talking to a human.
It's also kind of interesting to see people acting like it's entitled for people to be mad that the service that drove most other early competitors out by showing unsustainably low ads is now bait and switching by showing increasingly more ads. There's a reason there are more smaller competitors starting to pop up as YouTube has burned through leftover goodwill.
Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin
#35Why, from first principles, should YouTube allow this? Why shouldn’t they go thermonuclear? I understand ads are annoying - I block as many as I can! - but I’ve never seen someone put together a coherent defense of the practice.
If I were an advertiser on YouTube I would be very wary of YouTube's efforts on this. I wouldn't want to be paying YouTube for ad views of people who find advertising so annoying that they make such an effort to block it.
Best case scenario, frustrated ex-adblock-users will ignore my ads by muting them or looking away, so I'm paying the same price for less value, sometimes as low as zero. Worst case scenario, these users will actively despise my brand and avoid it altogether because they will associate it to their disdain for YouTube ads, so I'm paying for negative value.
Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin
#36Apart from the Youtube stuff, the post also highlights something else, entitlement towards free services like uBlock origin. > It’s one thing to play cat and mouse with YouTube. It’s quite another to deal with a wave of angry users. > And then one of the moderators actually deleted their Reddit account. “The ID in the post wasn’t updated because my mother was hospitalized,” they said. It’s sad to see them leave becau…
These services have had years to set up privacy-preserving micropayment systems. Instead they want your PI and a monthly fee, all the while using network effects to create defacto monopolies.
Why are these big tech monopolists so entitled?
Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you're neither paying YouTube any money nor watching their ads, meaning you're a pure money sink, why should they care about your goodwill?
If I'm referring thousands of people to YouTube, and I stop doing that while simultaneously joining the chorus of anti-YT sentiment on the internet, their bottom line should care.
good job you're not doing that then!
Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin
#38YouTube will "lose" the war, but they'll make adblocking difficult enough for a while that it might get some premium subscribers in the short term in exchange for the loss of goodwill.
I don't think they will lose. The average luddite doesn't care about seeing ads and will look perplexed at you if you tell them about ad blockers. Other services injecting ads into video streams have already been 'winning' for years. Ultimately youtube will push the envelope until even the people paying for premium will be seeing ads and savvy people will move on to pre-downloading videos and stripping ads from them…
I suspect it’ll be like Twitch where they tried hard for a while and then stopped because of the diminishing returns. YouTube will probably shake out everyone who doesn’t really understand tech and then find they are spending the same amount for less gains. And then the situation will stabilize again.
Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd guess those people have friends that they share videos and shorts with. Those people might want to pay for premium or watch ads.
This is precisely isomorphic to the logic of not paying freelancers because "you're getting exposure", which every freelancer knows is bullshit.
Reminds me of DJT stuffing his caterer for his wedding — “but you will be able to tell potential clients that you catered my wedding!” — which was no help at all when she had to pay bills for the food and staff.
Re: YouTube's Anti-Adblock and uBlock Origin
#40Why, from first principles, should YouTube allow this? Why shouldn’t they go thermonuclear? I understand ads are annoying - I block as many as I can! - but I’ve never seen someone put together a coherent defense of the practice.
> Why shouldn’t they go thermonuclear?
They might lose significant Chrome market share.
Chrome is also a "free" product. I could reverse your logic and ask why they shouldn't inject their ads into the HTML you downloaded from somewhere, from first principles?