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What Samsung did is actually more of an Apple move. Total control, even the source shop of your phone.
Parent isn’t talking about control. Their comment is off-topic, but correct.
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> We need a law, and that"s coming from a libertarian. > easily implemented by starting over and reprogramming everything. Press X to doubt. Theoretically a free market would/should solve this. That's been the dream of Free Software and hardware. Today you can run GNU/Linux on a PinePhone, or GrapheneOS or similar de-Googled Androids on a Pixel.
> Today you can run GNU/Linux on a PinePhone and on a Librem 5 phone.
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If Apple releases mid-tier phone after this, they will win the market for sure.
You forgot the other reason. I don't want an IPhone because I prefer to actually own my device (and because Android is overall more secure and I personally care about this).
What do you mean by that? Its an odd take in an article about Android users learning they don't own their device.
> and because Android is overall more secure and I personally care about this
citation?
That's messed up. I have generally preferred Samsung products,too. 10-15 years ago, when I had a lot more free time, I used to put CyanogenMod on my phones and play around with that. Are there any good open source mobile OS around these days?
Use a Pixel phone running version of GrapheneOS built and signed by you with your own keys, or use stock GrapheneOS and don't lock the bootloader, and add root access if desired. That's the only hardware/software system that guarantees both total freedom, support for mainstream apps, good security and a quality device.
That's messed up. I have generally preferred Samsung products,too. 10-15 years ago, when I had a lot more free time, I used to put CyanogenMod on my phones and play around with that. Are there any good open source mobile OS around these days?
GrapheneOS on a Pixel is really the only phone setup I'm vaguely comfortable running these days. If this project ends, I'm a bit screwed.
Since my own finances got to be a bit stricter, I try to donate in packages of $50 ocasionaly as to the project having, from me, an a average of $2 a month.
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ZTE is not connected to Samsung. There were some budget ZTE phones sold in the USA about 10 years ago. I believe ZTE was banned by the US government, along with Huawei for doing shady things.
"I believe ZTE was banned by the US government, along with Huawei for doing shady things." The shady things are beeing chinese owned and there is a trade war? Otherwise I heard lots of accusations, but saw no proof of anything.
Related: "Samsung and other manufacturers disable phones bought on gray markets" (10/23/2023, 164 comments): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37990528
Samsung and other manufacturers disable phones bought on gray markets - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37990528 - Oct 2023 (166 comments)
That's messed up. I have generally preferred Samsung products,too. 10-15 years ago, when I had a lot more free time, I used to put CyanogenMod on my phones and play around with that. Are there any good open source mobile OS around these days?
Motorola has an automated process to get the bootloader unlock code, and the whole process was fairly straightforward.
LineageOS even passes SafetyNet, however there's an additional CTS Profile check that some apps do, and passing that requires rooting the phone, which is turn requires a SafetyNet bypass and makes updates more tricky because LOS updates un-root the phone.
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How would a free market prevent Samsung from doing this?
In his mind a free market enables customers to boycott phones with such shenanigans. Problem is, this assumes all people are properly educated, aware and motivated which is never the case. The market can never be 100% free.
We need a law, and that"s coming from a libertarian. If the owner of a hardware device is using it, that person has total control over the device. Nothing can be blocked. Nothing can be hidden. All data must be available in plain language. That owner/user should have the right to inspect and modify everything in the device in plain language. With today's memory / storage capacities and with today's LLMs, that should…
We need a law that protects transfer of rights in general. It must become illegal to stop people from selling things they have, from hardware to things like accounts on various platform. Ensuring transferability brings us closer to a free market, which should take care of the problem.