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Re: The destruction of Gaza's internet is complete

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Post by bluish29 »

fortran77 wrote: post #25

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Come on. Isreal have modern army which have the most advanced weapons and technologies with the fu support of the most powerful countries in the world. It is open secret that they have a medium sized nuclear arsenal. US sent troops and weapons everytime they are in war. They occupy the 1967 Palestinian borders except gaza, Golan from syria and some parts of Lebanon. They are fighting a bunch of people whatever they are are confined in an open prison.

They have the most advanced air force in the region which until now dropped thousands of bombs daily on gaza. There is no danger from any arab country armed intervention.

What survival are you talking about? Are you trying to play the victim of holocaust and use the historical suffering now?

Re: The destruction of Gaza's internet is complete

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Post by BannedByKikes »

petertodd wrote: post #32
jowea wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen some speculation about the intelligence failure in not predicting the attack being related to Hamas avoiding the Internet for planning, and even deliberately sending false info on channels they knew were compromised.

...or Hamas just used modern encryption, which does work when implemented and used correctly. Merely using Signal consistently and correctly could very well be enough. There isn't an unlimited supply of over-the-air zero-day exploits.

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Re: The destruction of Gaza's internet is complete

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Post by drunner »

fortran77 wrote: post #35
culi wrote: post #33

Nearly all of the over 7k people killed in Gaza in the past few days are civilians. Sure Hamas, with the help of the media framing of this as a 9/11, gave them a good Casus belli, but Israel has always been good at finding Casus bellis. When Israel again invaded Gaza in 2014, they killed 2,310 people, 70% civilians and lost 67 soldiers in return. Even more destructive was the 7-10k homes completely demolished and 87k…

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I think you missed the word civilians.

Half the middle east has the right to come to the US and murder civilians by your reasoning above.

Re: The destruction of Gaza's internet is complete

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Post by logicchains »

petertodd wrote: post #41
xkekjrktllss wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the west had a different opinion on russia doing the same in ukraine

Because Russia's invasion is clearly illegal and immoral. Every act they do in furtherance of that goal is a crime. Every bullet fired, every cell phone tower and every power transformer destroyed. Israel is clearly defending themselves against a genocidal adversary who just killed more Jews in one day than any day since the Holocaust. They have every right to invade Gaza to eliminate that threat.

>Israel is clearly defending themselves against a genocidal adversary who just killed more Jews in one day than any day since the Holocaust

And Israel had previously killed way more Palestinian civilians than that. Why is a Jewish life worth more than a Palestinian life?

Re: The destruction of Gaza's internet is complete

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Post by stefan_ »

culi wrote: post #33

Nearly all of the over 7k people killed in Gaza in the past few days are civilians. Sure Hamas, with the help of the media framing of this as a 9/11, gave them a good Casus belli, but Israel has always been good at finding Casus bellis. When Israel again invaded Gaza in 2014, they killed 2,310 people, 70% civilians and lost 67 soldiers in return. Even more destructive was the 7-10k homes completely demolished and 87k…

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Re: The destruction of Gaza's internet is complete

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Post by fortran77 »

culi wrote: post #33

Nearly all of the over 7k people killed in Gaza in the past few days are civilians. Sure Hamas, with the help of the media framing of this as a 9/11, gave them a good Casus belli, but Israel has always been good at finding Casus bellis. When Israel again invaded Gaza in 2014, they killed 2,310 people, 70% civilians and lost 67 soldiers in return. Even more destructive was the 7-10k homes completely demolished and 87k…

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Re: The destruction of Gaza's internet is complete

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Post by jacquesm »

bhouston wrote: post #26
lordofgibbons wrote: post #6

Hopefully news crews brought their satellite broadcasting equipment. It's important for the world not be blocked off from seeing what's going on regardless of which side you support.

After the horrendous Hamas attacks of October 7 a portion of the Israeli public sort of lost it and have outright called for retribution. I worry that this indiscriminate bombing campaign combined with a near complete blockade of food, electricity, water of the last two weeks is reflective of that. Now with a lack of communication, I worry about Palestinians. You can never be sure what will happen, but the ingredient…

> You can never be sure what will happen, but the ingredients for something really bad are all here.

Something really bad has been happening there for the last decades, but it's so messed up and mixed up in past mistakes, revenge and religion that there is no more ability to reason with either side.

What really galls me is that we were so close to finally solving this and then Rabin was murdered (by his own side, go figure) and it all went to pieces.

Re: The destruction of Gaza's internet is complete

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Post by aaomidi »

stefan_ wrote: post #55
culi wrote: post #33

Nearly all of the over 7k people killed in Gaza in the past few days are civilians. Sure Hamas, with the help of the media framing of this as a 9/11, gave them a good Casus belli, but Israel has always been good at finding Casus bellis. When Israel again invaded Gaza in 2014, they killed 2,310 people, 70% civilians and lost 67 soldiers in return. Even more destructive was the 7-10k homes completely demolished and 87k…

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https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-c...

Re: The destruction of Gaza's internet is complete

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Post by OfSanguineFire »

petertodd wrote: post #32
jowea wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen some speculation about the intelligence failure in not predicting the attack being related to Hamas avoiding the Internet for planning, and even deliberately sending false info on channels they knew were compromised.

...or Hamas just used modern encryption, which does work when implemented and used correctly. Merely using Signal consistently and correctly could very well be enough. There isn't an unlimited supply of over-the-air zero-day exploits.

Signal’s devs recommend that it be installed from the Play Store, and that is what the vast majority of people do. There has been heavy speculation that certain state actors are able to push a compromised Play Store update to users of interest. Moreover, the Signal board has been overhauled recently, Moxie left, and at least one new member has a US government background. It’s possible that the organization itself has been somehow compromised.

(While Signal still offers an .apk for download from its website, the organization does not recommend it. Moreover, that APK comes with its own update functionality where the same risks may exist as with the Play Store.)

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