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My Left Kidney

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Re: My Left Kidney

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I dunno, I feel like this whole article just makes it clear how fundamentally flawed the idea of calculating your way to good (in both the moral and the practical sense) decisions is. It's clear from the article that even the first-order effects of a kidney donation decision are incalculable: no one really knows the exact risk accrued from the CT scan, or the surgery, or the upside to the recipient. It doesn't seem O…

Maybe they've worked out some sort of precommitment to prevent that, or he put poison pills into his will or something.

Re: My Left Kidney

#292
Now that we're talking about kidney donation -- you might also consider becoming a blood donor! It's easy, and you get free tracking of cholesterol, blood pressure, and a battery of other blood tests when you do so.

If you're in the US and have been told in the past that you're not qualified, you might want to look and see if that's still the case. The US relaxed a bunch of restrictions during the COVID-induced blood donation shortages of the last few years, and is in the process of removing some more.

https://www.hhs.gov/givingequalsliving/giveblood/can-i-give

Re: My Left Kidney

#293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I still wish we tried harder to heal the "original equipment from the manufacturer" we are all born with I mean, i don't think its for lack of trying.

I was bluntly told "People like you don't get well. Symptom management is the name of the game." I replied "It may be true that I will always be infected with something but this particular infection has to go as it's killing me." My doctor physically took a step back as if I had slapped him. I'm quite confident it's due to lack of trying. If you have zero goal of actually getting me better, please don't blame my cond…

> "It may be true that I will always be infected with something but this particular infection has to go as it's killing me."

> My doctor physically took a step back as if I had slapped him.

Not to be cold, and I'm sorry, but what did you expect. You are talking to a doctor not jesus. Everyone with an uncurable disease wants a treatment but just because you want something doesn't mean its possible. If it did, nobody would die.

And of course your doctor isn't trying to come up with novel treatments. Your doctor is not a medical researcher.

Re: My Left Kidney

#294
One thing to note for HN comment readers is that this guy is a MD with experience in kidney function despite not being a nephrologist. He's also not a teenager or in his 20s. That's important due to remaining expected lifespan, as well as the vital importance of functioning kidneys (preferably plural) after a car crash or a gunshot wound.

Re: My Left Kidney

#295
post #43

I’m keeping both my kidneys for if someone I love needs one. When I am dead however, they can take my kidneys, heart, lungs, liver and whatever else that is salvageable and give them to whoever needs them (assuming I die in the right circumstances that this is possible).

He covers that in the post. If you donate your kidney, you can nominate up to 5 people to be first in line if they (or you) ever need a transplant. Given compatibility concerns, it's probably safer for your family member for you to donate than not.

But can you change the names later? What if you divorce and remarry, or have a kid later?

Re: My Left Kidney

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post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The kidney surgery only looks so low risk (partially) because they only do it on people that passed the CT scan. (To give an even more extreme example for illustration: Suppose the scan could perfectly predict who will die from the surgery and who will live without any side effects. Suppose 90% of people fall into the former and 10% of people fall into the latter category. Suppose further that the scan has a 0.1% cha…

One of the reasons they do the scan is that they look at both kidneys only take your WORST one

If that's the case, is it possible Scott is lying or leaving out information on what kidney it was?

Re: My Left Kidney

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I dunno, I feel like this whole article just makes it clear how fundamentally flawed the idea of calculating your way to good (in both the moral and the practical sense) decisions is. It's clear from the article that even the first-order effects of a kidney donation decision are incalculable: no one really knows the exact risk accrued from the CT scan, or the surgery, or the upside to the recipient. It doesn't seem O…

Or the risks of hospital-acquired infection (maybe his girlfriend considered that). What about effects like if it aches for years afterwards but won't kill him; at what level of ache would that turn from "reminder that I did a good thing" to "damnit"?

Hand transplants are a thing - would he give up his non-dominant hand to someone who lost both of theirs in an accident?

Eye transplants aren't a thing, but if they were, would he give up one to a blind person?

If it was really easy to see the damage (hand) and lose an obvious piece of functionality (eye) it would be much harder to argue with numbers "studies show that most people who lose a hand survive more than 7 years". Would he lose an eye, a hand, a kidney, a lung, a lower leg, a foot of intestine, a chunk of liver, a section of skin, a few litres of blood, if it did more good to someone else than to him?

> "Indeed, OP tries to present a bunch of arithmetic to justify their decision, but admits that it ultimately rested on an emotional gut feeling: "It starts with wanting, just once, do a good thing that will make people like you more instead of less.""

The Last Psychiatrist wrote that you shouldn't need validation from other people, shouldn't want it, and if you do want it - fix that. Doing it hoping you gain some indelible "society values me" token to carry around with you forever so you can use it as a trump card and people will like you more, feeling like you've never done anything good and that you need to to be likeable, doesn't sound much like "altruism: Unselfish concern for the welfare of others; selflessness.", does it?

Re: My Left Kidney

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post #255

An anecdote to go along with his rejection. Once I got rejected from doing a medical donation in US because in the giant table of family sicknesses they gave me I marked X next to one of the mental conditions for my father who was an alcoholic because apparently alcoholism technically is that kind of mental condition (yes, the X had to be explained in the form, which I did). As you can imagine alcoholism is not that…

> As you can imagine alcoholism is not that heritable Alcoholism is that heritable: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4345133/ At ~50% heritability, it is in no way unusually low, and entirely comparable with many other traits.

This is actually more heritable than appendicitis or leukemia. Hard to imagine what the mechanism could be.

Re: My Left Kidney

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t see anything wrong with the charity you mentioned. It certainly isn’t what normal people consider eugenics though technically that charity might meet its definition. If you are a crack addict, you shouldn’t be anywhere close to having children. You will ruin the child’s life first and foremost. Apart from that you will create an undue burden to society, neither of which is fair. First they should cure themsel…

If you don't see anything wrong with a charity whose founder compares people to dogs and calls their children "litters", then I doubt there's anything I could say to make you disapprove of it.

Maybe you should answer the question I and the charity pose rather than deflecting. Do you think it’s correct for Crack Addicts to have litters of children, who will likely be neglected, emotionally stunted, and suffering from mental health problems.
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